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PostSubject: Re: enemys.   Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:16 am

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why would that happen in communism but not capitalism???

Generally being environmentally safe means a cut in capital.

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you have your theroy but no reson nor any experienc nor do you have any proof of capitalist cuntryes being pullutants,

So i take it you don't believe mankind has had anything to do with global warming? I mean, no one denies global warming's existence (unless they are senseless), they just claim it's inevitable and occured naturally. If not, then how can you deny that there is proof of capitalist countries polluting?

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and those laws are already inplace in the eu and new laws( stricter) are going to be put forward in denmark.

... No, technocracy is not being utilized as far as i know. There are laws, yes, but not technocracy.

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PostSubject: Re: enemys.   Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:07 am

it was not because i heard you say it. i already knew what it means. its common knowledge
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PostSubject: Re: enemys.   Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:21 am

Have you even read the ecosocialist manifesto before? I read it before I even came to this site.
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PostSubject: Re: enemys.   Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:25 am

so have i, boxy
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PostSubject: Re: enemys.   Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:28 am

okay.......................... pyramidy (idk) ?
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PostSubject: Re: enemys.   Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:41 am

enviro wrote:
so have i, boxy
i highly doubt that

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PostSubject: Re: enemys.   Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:43 am

hes probably reading it now
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PostSubject: Re: enemys.   Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:04 am

wanna bet 5 bucks. after i went green i read up on some immportant articlas by gren friends siad would be immportnat to read!
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PostSubject: Re: enemys.   Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:37 am

green friends. sure. kids your age talk about sex, not politics.
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PostSubject: Re: enemys.   Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:37 pm

Forced [insert any political ideology here] is always bad by my books, be it Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, Anarchism, and, yes, even Environmentalism.

I support Green politics, but a lot of these guys are going about it in the wrong way. This somewhat long article on PETA will probably show you what I mean.
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PostSubject: Re: enemys.   Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:31 pm

how do you have a political system thats not forced? Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: enemys.   Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:15 pm

Watermelon wrote:
how do you have a political system thats not forced? Suspect

Actually, that's kind of a good point... GG.
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PostSubject: Re: enemys.   Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:03 pm

WeiWuWei wrote:
Forced [insert any political ideology here] is always bad by my books, be it Communism, Socialism, Capitalism, Anarchism, and, yes, even Environmentalism.

Forced anarchism is oxymoronic (Besides, anarchy is not political but anti-political). But i completely agree with you that societal decisions must come freely and voluntarily.

But as Watermelon said, any form of politics must be forced to a certain extent.

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