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PostSubject: Reformism or Revolution   Mon Jun 02, 2008 3:44 am

Alan Woods speaks on his forthcoming publication "Reformism or Revolution, Marxism and Socialism of the 21st century", (a reply to the views of Heinz Dietrich), at a crucial stage in the Venezuelan revolution, as the struggle unfolds between those who are trying to limit the revolution within the confines of capitalism and those revolutionary Bolivarians who are attempting to complete the socialist revolution.
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PostSubject: Re: Reformism or Revolution   Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:47 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Reformism or Revolution   Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:13 pm

I'll listen to the audio files a little later so I can get more insight into this. But I think it should be noted that Chavez's election to the seat of presidency gave a big boost to the Bolivarian movement not just in Venezuela, but in South America overall. And, last time I checked, democratically electing leaders speaks more to the "Reformist" camp than it does to the "Revolutionist" one.

So long as the Bolivarians and the liberal parties there can retain their power after Chavez's term is over, I feel that the need for a Revolution will be greatly diminished. Especially in South America; the area is becoming much more sympathetic to Socialist tendencies.

This isn't to say that Revolution can't work elsewhere, nor that it shouldn't be tried elsewhere, despite the fact that my personal feelings tend to lean away from that idea. However, I feel that South America's shift to Socialism is already in motion, and any violence carried out in its name may detract the good sympathy that the left movement has in that region.

Chavez has done a lot of good as president. Much more than he did back in '92 when he tried, unsuccessfully, to throw a coup. I think that speaks to the virtue of the Reformist movement.
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PostSubject: Re: Reformism or Revolution   Mon Jun 02, 2008 9:29 pm

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And, last time I checked, democratically electing leaders speaks more to the "Reformist" camp than it does to the "Revolutionist" one.

maybe olriac will listen when you say it...............but i doutb it
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