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PostSubject: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeWed Jul 02, 2008 9:41 am

Alright so how do you guys want to do this?
Here is a rough draft of points I want to hit:

-Permanent Revolution vs. Two-stage stalinism
-Bureaucratic degeneration of USSR
-The Kulaks
-The ICL
-State capitalism vs. Degenerated Workers' State
-What is a workers' state
-The current condition of china
-The Russian Revolution
-Workers' Vanguards
and probably more

-The topics will likely blend together a certain degree but I want to have a focus on each topic.
-I will likely quote the book "The Revolution Betrayed" at length and I suggest getting a copy if you can.
-I really just want those interested in trotskyism to post on the class topics and hope that those interested in polemics and debating will bring up their points in a separate topic for me to get to

IMPORTANT POINT
-Ideally we could hold these classes in chat rooms so if you have Instant messenger and are interested in the class.

Otherwise, please post the best day for the first class which will likely focus on Trotsky's theory of permanent revolution

I will need smooth cooperation for this class to thrive and succeed. After my class point on these days I will either open up the floor for questions and discussion in the topic/ chat room but will only respond to well thought out questions.

Again, I hope that debates and polemics will be held outside of the class topics

I thank you for your appreciation
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PostSubject: Re: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeWed Jul 02, 2008 12:25 pm

it was wrong to murder the kulaks, just take their powers but then give them something to bite on
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PostSubject: Re: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeWed Jul 02, 2008 12:43 pm

I disagree with you. In my opinion the murder of the kulaks was essential
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PostSubject: Re: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeWed Jul 02, 2008 12:47 pm

ilych wrote:
I disagree with you. In my opinion the murder of the kulaks was essential
but they where just poor little kulaks, poor little... Crying or Very sad
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PostSubject: Re: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeWed Jul 02, 2008 9:24 pm

im not sure any of this was intended to be brought up now.

please name a day that is good for you
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PostSubject: Re: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeWed Jul 02, 2008 10:13 pm

perm rev v 2stage stalinism
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PostSubject: Re: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeWed Jul 02, 2008 10:32 pm

what about it?
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PostSubject: Re: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeWed Jul 02, 2008 11:36 pm

explane it. i thout that perm rev menes that rusia can go from fedual to socialite in one rev. do the stalinites not beleaf the same? i thout stalin was trying to make it socialite?
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PostSubject: Re: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2008 6:33 pm

Hey I can actually see it! unfortunatley Im stil banned so I cant ask any question. What a tarreble class series. ALmost as bad as the forum of marxite yuth. Remember when you thought I was AD? That was funny as hell.
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PostSubject: Re: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2008 10:22 pm

i can't believe they haven't banned you yet...
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PostSubject: Re: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2008 10:25 pm

Shabazz Freeman wrote:
i can't believe they haven't banned you yet...

You spoke too quickly Shabbazz, he's been banned.
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PostSubject: Re: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2008 10:42 pm

*sigh* now he's gonna flood over to our place when he realizes he is unbanned...

atleast he is on his last strike at our place too
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Shabazz Freeman wrote:
*sigh* now he's gonna flood over to our place when he realizes he is unbanned...

atleast he is on his last strike at our place too

I'll put him here to a severe trial, hope to get people to vote for permaban, I don't think people will disagree.

Hard to resist the temptation to simply ban him for good, huh?
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PostSubject: Re: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeMon Jul 21, 2008 11:09 pm

he's charlie
he just pmed me
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Shabazz Freeman wrote:
he's charlie
he just pmed me

I thought so...

*sigh* not pretty clever huh?
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PostSubject: Re: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeTue Jul 22, 2008 12:04 am

yet he boasts about his high IQ.

he's already temp banned on our side lol
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Shabazz Freeman wrote:
yet he boasts about his high IQ.

he's already temp banned on our side lol

Well when you need to boast about something it most probably means you lack it.

I guess I'm going to IP ban him here and then confront the people.
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PostSubject: Re: What is Trotskyism? Class series by *****   What is Trotskyism? Class series by ***** Icon_minitimeFri Jul 25, 2008 3:50 am

oh shit im ip banned!!!!!!!! i wish i was clever and had a hi IQ so i could get around it. unfortunatley i dont rite?
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