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PostSubject: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeSat Aug 16, 2008 10:08 pm

I believe that no man should starve, or have his family on the streets. that Murder should be forgiven if the person is mentally ill (and can be helped), I also believe that mass murdering innocent people should be punishable by death. I believe that Together the Workers can create a system that allows freedom and a upper middle class life to every civilian. I think that Solders, Miners, and other people who profess in dangerous jobs should be reworded more money then safe jobs, however jobs that require brains such as teaching or city planing should also be payed will. I believe that you should be able to start your own company, but there should be a limit to how rich someone can get form it.


1. What's your understanding of Democracy?

Democracy is the freedom to vote for a leader, and vote on the country's Big acts

2. What's your understanding of Communism?

A system that the government owns all the land and feeds all the people and represents the population, I think that it could be a perfect system, but it seems to good to be true. (plus fake communism and propaganda has turned much of the world away from the ideal)

3. What's your understanding of Capitalism?

A system that people have the right to open company's and make allot of money, those who don't live middle class life's, or live in poverty. It works but there are many flaws.

4. What about facism?

Dictatorship were people are forced to stay in line or suffer. it makes a very stable and powerful system, but allows little freedom and well most likely lead to a revolt.

5. Make a list of the all human rights you consider essential

freedom of religion, free health care, Equal rights for both genders and all races, and freedom of speech and opinion.

6. Being able to do something is having the freedom to do something. a extremely censored society proves that a country is not free.

7. What's your understanding of Equality?

All races all faiths and all genders have the same freedoms and opportunity's as the next one

8. What's your understanding of a prosperous society?

A Society were Poverty is near nonexistent, and were the people are generally happy and proud.


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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeSun Aug 17, 2008 12:11 am

Reply's would be appreciated
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeSun Aug 17, 2008 12:15 am

I disagree with none but your concept of democracy, I think it goes far beyond just "voting". I believe democracy to be dependant on many other factors other than just to apacity ot vote and excert an opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeSun Aug 17, 2008 12:18 am

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
I disagree with none but your concept of democracy, I think it goes far beyond just "voting". I believe democracy to be dependant on many other factors other than just to apacity ot vote and excert an opinion.
can you explain to me the bigger meaning of democracy comrade?
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeSun Aug 17, 2008 12:37 am

Comrade Pollett wrote:
can you explain to me the bigger meaning of democracy comrade?

Democracy, in a simpler sense is the "power of the people", that is the people have the power over their destiny, over their future, over their lives. The people, as a whole.

But... could it be achieved just with the implementation of a democratic mechanism? A mechanism that allowed everyone to vote?

In my view, no.

For people to be able to have power over their decisions, over their course they must count with knowledge, not only of the challenges presented to society but the origin of them. People must know the problems and understand them in order for their vote, in order for their voice, their opinion to be able to influde in their future.

Democracy comprises not only voting but the whole excertion of power by the people which can only be achieved through knowledge, organisation, empathy, understanding, wil and something very important: common objectives.

A blind people that votes, is not dmeocratic; an ignorant people that votes is not living under democracy; people that haven't experienced but one kind of system can barely judge on economy.

Democracy encomprises a lot, the possibility of people to actualy be able to determine their path.
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeSun Aug 17, 2008 3:04 am

Indeed, people should actually KNOW how a true democracy works instead of just be "given" the right to vote.

If it was like the US system, you wouldn't be able to do anything, despite that so-called "right to vote". In my opinion, the US system is fukked up and backwards. Hell, it's exactly the same the way China does their elections. You pick a representive of your state and they go vote for the President. HUR HUR.

lawls, anyways. Glad to see your political side. ^^
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeMon Aug 18, 2008 5:44 pm

wow man i love you comradde, your logic is fair
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeMon Aug 18, 2008 6:28 pm

enviro wrote:
wow man i love you comradde, your logic is fair
=D thanks
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeThu Oct 30, 2008 2:33 pm

Nobody pointed out anything regarding his view of what communism is? This is disappointing.
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeThu Oct 30, 2008 7:53 pm

Stos wrote:
Nobody pointed out anything regarding his view of what communism is? This is disappointing.

It's also my fault, but it's also matter of semantics I think.

In communism the people is the government.
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeThu Oct 30, 2008 8:09 pm

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Indeed, people should actually KNOW how a true democracy works instead of just be "given" the right to vote.

Indeed Smile

zealot wrote:
In communism the people is the government

Then what's government meaning? I don't think human could one day erase its vices and consider himself equal to others. There's people who consider their opinion less important than the other ones and some who consider their like more valable than the others. So, it always finish with a certain group of people that have naturally more influence than others. Society makes chiefs itself. So, who can government be everybody if they are influence by brighter or more charismatic ones?
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeThu Oct 30, 2008 8:25 pm

I think his poli-pro is kind off chnaged now, not sure tough.
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeThu Oct 30, 2008 9:27 pm

Lilith wrote:


Then what's government meaning?

Well it would manage economy, space and development.

Lilith wrote:

I don't think human could one day erase its vices and consider himself equal to others.

Then I'm not human and neither are many of my comrades... I guess we're aliens or something like that.

Lilith wrote:

There's people who consider their opinion less important than the other ones and some who consider their like more valable than the others.

The opinion of a physicist on the way a supernova works is much more valuable than the opinion on the same topic excerted by Jay Leno a tv show's conductor. The opinion of a neurosurgeon on how brain surgery should take place is more valuable than the opinion of a chef on the same topic.

There's knowledge authority. The mechanical engineer has authority on topics regarding to materials' behaviour under certain forces for example. A person that has no knowledge on that cannot offer a valuable perspective.

I cannot tell a surgeon what's the best way to perform an open heart surgery.

But all that knowledge authority doesn't mean that people will abuse. Actually and very ironically there's more abuse performed by those with poor knowledge and even intelligence just because this system allows them to do so.

Lilith wrote:

So, it always finish with a certain group of people that have naturally more influence than others.

Point adressed above.

Lilith wrote:

Society makes chiefs itself.

Naturally those with knowledge lead those without it. Engineers coordinate workers into building a structure a machine or whatever, surgeons coordinate nurses, teachers coordinate students. So? That doesn't mean those that know more will put themselves above others.

Lilith wrote:

So, who can government be everybody if they are influence by brighter or more charismatic ones?

Because people will count with the knowledge to judge who is brighter and to dismiss leadership based on plain charisma.
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeThu Oct 30, 2008 9:30 pm

Lilith wrote:
I don't think human could one day erase its vices and consider himself equal to others.
So?
Also, people aren't going to oppose their own interests just because somebody has 'charisma', especially not with education. It takes brainwashing from the cradle to do that, or something else major. For example, the Great Depression, which brought Hitler in, though there were many other factors. Hitler did make life better for the Germans that he didn't dislike compared to life before his rule, though his treatment of those that he did... Of course, we wouldn't have 'democracy' in the style Germany at the time did anyways Crud, you don't even see people strongly against the Democrats suddenly supporting them just because Obama has 'charisma'.
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeMon Nov 03, 2008 4:23 pm


I believe that every voice should be spoken, I also believe that if some people want one thing and the others want another thing the world should shut down until they compromise, meaning marshall law, no food production, and kicked out of they're homes and put into the shelter. If someone wants a new government they should be allowed to run for their party, No objections from the major party. The working class are politicans, the police, and the workers. Their is no currency

1. What's your understanding of Democracy?
I believe that Democracy is a very practical system with many flaws, it helps to make voices heard.
2. What's your understanding of Communism?
Communism is a big political party, it has many flaws, but my form is almost flawproof
3. What's your understanding of Capitalism?
Capitalism is a way for government to make money without caring for the lower class.
4. What's your understanding of Fascism?
Fascism is a bad idea in any country, They create war
5. Make a list of the all human rights you consider essential
.Everyone is equal
.Everyone has a choice
.Everyone can say whatever they want
.Everyone can break the law if they're okay with the consequences
6. What's your understanding of Freedom?
Freedom can only be possessed when everyone agrees to the same thing
7. What's your understanding of Equality?
Where everyone is intrested in anothers culture
8. What's your understanding of a prosperous society?
No war
9. What's your stance towards the environment?
I believe that when the biggest changes take place we will have the technology to take care of it. ***Biggest changes- floods, draughts, hurricanes ect.
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeMon Nov 03, 2008 4:48 pm

Hauthism wrote:
Communism is a big political party, it has many flaws, but my form is almost flawproof
Wrong on both counts. Also, welcome.
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PostSubject: Re: My Political Profile   My Political Profile Icon_minitimeMon Nov 03, 2008 10:47 pm

you must make a new thread not a reaply xD
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hahahaha
Yea man.
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