Michael Wittmann

Dude, it's impossible to be more than 100% Russian, and even then, how does one measure Russkiness? Seriously, being '1000000% Russian' is a logical contradiction. Didn't you learn about percentages in school? Or were they too busy brainwashing you into becoming a 'happy consumer'?

Stos wrote:

Dude, it's impossible to be more than 100% Russian, and even then, how does one measure Russkiness? Seriously, being '1000000% Russian' is a logical contradiction. Didn't you learn about percentages in school? Or were they too busy brainwashing you into becoming a 'happy consumer'?

are you such a stuipd brain less moron to not understand that this statement was symbolic

So you were basically stating that you're illogical?

Stos wrote:

So you were basically stating that you're illogical?

you dont get it, it was a symbolic statement and thats have nothing to do with illogical fool

SS was nazi SS goes gulag...
he gos gulag good bye... maybe he wasnt as "EVIL" as his friends but he still is SS he got the guilts on his shulders, if he wanted to fight and was not nazi then he could at least join werhmacht.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

if we sent this dude to the gulag then evry singel person that killed someone in WW2 needs to go to the gulag

This guy was not a "normal" soldier. He was from a very special, particularily politicized German unit: The SS.

the SS faught in WW2 after 1940.

an I chun't see any dec that he massacerd anyone, he relly shun't go to the gulag for being in the ss, I mean were not sending the whole red army are we?

if you think wehrmacht was better then god i dont now what to say

i think minimum 90% of them were fanatics and they are millions of crimes they did

RedSoviet wrote:

if you think wehrmacht was better then god i dont now what to say

i think minimum 90% of them were fanatics and they are millions of crimes they did

why?

mattabesta wrote:

RedSoviet wrote:

if you think wehrmacht was better then god i dont now what to say

i think minimum 90% of them were fanatics and they are millions of crimes they did

why?

what a stuipd question... why...


yeah why they were such a shame to the humanity, why the even exist

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RedSoviet wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

RedSoviet wrote:

if you think wehrmacht was better then god i dont now what to say

i think minimum 90% of them were fanatics and they are millions of crimes they did

why?

what a stuipd question... why...


yeah why they were such a shame to the humanity, why the even exist

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you've still not answered my question I would like you to give me a good reason

Quote :

you've still not answered my question I would like you to give me a good reason

becouse ther they was

so im asking why

RedSoviet wrote:

if you think wehrmacht was better then god i dont now what to say

i think minimum 90% of them were fanatics and they are millions of crimes they did

but not the same..................................... MAYBES

As has been pointed out there is no 'just fighting for his country' when the SS are involved. Hell, when the Wehrmacht on the eastern front are involved its a bit of a stretch. If a Wehrmacht soldier raped a Slavonic woman he would not have been subjected to the same punishment as if he had raped a German woman.
The German expansion eastward would, after all, have resulted in the murder 1/3 of the population and reduced the survivors to slavery and surfdom. At the end of the day, indoctrinated Nazi or not, this is what they were fighting for.

I'm not sure that the SS was a voluntary organisation for ethnic Germans, but it was possible to avoid becoming an SS member, and it would not necessarily cost you your life. (Speer got away with it IIRC, although I don't know the circumstances).

The GULAG is probably too good for someone like this.

Have to agree with Steel. However the Gulag seems fine for this guy.

mainstream is blinding, especially with a propoganda minister goebbles.... he should be the one that should be gulaged. wait a minut... i rather see every one in jail.. lets gulag churchill! and his scissor hands becaus we all know stone beats scissors, even though churchill himself claim he could beat paper and stone! who wanted to keep on figthing and now turn they allies to their enemy... Nazis where just dumb, blind of anger and fanatics. : dont be an ars churchill!

Tyrlop wrote:

mainstream is blinding, especially with a propoganda minister goebbles.... he should be the one that should be gulaged. wait a minut... i rather see every one in jail.. lets gulag churchill! and his scissor hands becaus we all know stone beats scissors, even though churchill himself claim he could beat paper and stone! who wanted to keep on figthing and now turn they allies to their enemy... Nazis where just dumb, blind of anger and fanatics. : dont be an ars churchill!

No one can force you into believing that killing a human being out of mere ethnic differences is right.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Tyrlop wrote:

mainstream is blinding, especially with a propoganda minister goebbles.... he should be the one that should be gulaged. wait a minut... i rather see every one in jail.. lets gulag churchill! and his scissor hands becaus we all know stone beats scissors, even though churchill himself claim he could beat paper and stone! who wanted to keep on figthing and now turn they allies to their enemy... Nazis where just dumb, blind of anger and fanatics. : dont be an ars churchill!

No one can force you into believing that killing a human being out of mere ethnic differences is right.

i agree, when it comes down to it, your the one pulling the trigger, not goeballs.

It is not right.

Tyrlop wrote:

It is not right.

whose side are you on mate?

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Tyrlop wrote:

mainstream is blinding, especially with a propoganda minister goebbles.... he should be the one that should be gulaged. wait a minut... i rather see every one in jail.. lets gulag churchill! and his scissor hands becaus we all know stone beats scissors, even though churchill himself claim he could beat paper and stone! who wanted to keep on figthing and now turn they allies to their enemy... Nazis where just dumb, blind of anger and fanatics. : dont be an ars churchill!

No one can force you into believing that killing a human being out of mere ethnic differences is right.

yes. its very easy

I hate to agree with the bonaparte, but don't blame war on the soldier. I kind of like Michael Wittmann. As far as I know, he didn't commit any crimes. Maybe not a hero, but not a gulag either. He was a great tank ace, I tend to admire those guys regardless of what side their on.

Well...I think the average German soldier (including tank commanders) were definitely brainwashed into thinking that "To protect Germany, you must kill Jews/undesirables whatever".

However, I have to agree on Michael Wittman. He was like any other tank commander in any other army. And back then, you DID have to follow orders, otherwise you got your family/urself imprisoned.

So-called "morales" wasn't very high back then.

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

Well...I think the average German soldier (including tank commanders) were definitely brainwashed into thinking that "To protect Germany, you must kill Jews/undesirables whatever".

However, I have to agree on Michael Wittman. He was like any other tank commander in any other army. And back then, you DID have to follow orders, otherwise you got your family/urself imprisoned.

So-called "morales" wasn't very high back then.

doesnt chnage that fact he was a monster.

Tyrlop wrote:

yes. its very easy

So you're actually saying that it is not only possible for someone to make you defy your convictions but that it is very easy?

i c what u mean i got interupted by something and i forgot what to post xD
well i dont know if he should be gulaged, yes he was in SS second we dont know if he maybe have killed inocent people and he has tortured people like many german soldiers in the eastfront did.

this means gulag him becaus he was in SS and SS is nazi. just wrote this a bit bad