| Okay, so, who's this newb? | |
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+13Liche Jesus Black_Cross mattabesta Alek4A CoolKidX Cyprian Uljanow RedSoviet Stos Marijah calinis Zealot_Kommunizma Nephee 17 posters |
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calinis Experienced Party Member
Posts : 966 Join date : 2008-06-26 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:32 am | |
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- There is private ownership of the means of production.
The government was responsible for things like education, healthcare, etc. A truely capitalist state would leave these things to the private sector. | |
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Stos New Party Member
Posts : 546 Join date : 2008-09-14
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:38 am | |
| - calinis wrote:
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- There is private ownership of the means of production.
The government was responsible for things like education, healthcare, etc. A truely capitalist state would leave these things to the private sector. That's laissez faire. It's not as convenient for capitalists, so they use the state for their benefit, as well as to keep the labour movement either peaceful or dead. So yes, it's a truly capitalist state. | |
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calinis Experienced Party Member
Posts : 966 Join date : 2008-06-26 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:45 am | |
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- That's laissez faire. It's not as convenient for capitalists, so they use the state for their benefit, as well as to keep the labour movement either peaceful or dead. So yes, it's a truly capitalist state.
Hitler said "we are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system" The economy was Keynesian, that's why it had ample social programs. It's more socialist than anything. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:34 am | |
| - calinis wrote:
Hitler said "we are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system" Yeah I can dress like a woman and inject estrogen to myself and scream "Look, I'm a woman!" and that wouldn't make me a woman. Socialism implies workers owning the means of production and the elimination of social classes. Such a thing was not present in Germany so it was not socialist. - calinis wrote:
The economy was Keynesian, that's why it had ample social programs. It's more socialist than anything. That's capitalism. If capital exists you get capitalism as simple as that. | |
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calinis Experienced Party Member
Posts : 966 Join date : 2008-06-26 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:53 am | |
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- That's capitalism. If capital exists you get capitalism as simple as that.
So you reckon Cuba is a capitalist country then? | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:56 am | |
| - calinis wrote:
So you reckon Cuba is a capitalist country then? Of course, a State Capitalist country to be more precise. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:57 am | |
| NEIN!
Cuba is awesomist, at least in my opinion. | |
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calinis Experienced Party Member
Posts : 966 Join date : 2008-06-26 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:00 am | |
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- Cuba is awesomist, at least in my opinion.
Haha ironic that you would say that. Castro sucks compared to Hitler, right? | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:02 am | |
| - calinis wrote:
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- Cuba is awesomist, at least in my opinion.
Haha ironic that you would say that.
Castro sucks compared to Hitler, right? No Hitler is a Sociopath, Castro is a man corrupt with power. | |
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calinis Experienced Party Member
Posts : 966 Join date : 2008-06-26 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:05 am | |
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- No Hitler is a Sociopath, Castro is a man corrupt with power.
dude you're a nazi. That's the same scum ideology that Hitler held. | |
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Sill Senior Komsomol Member
Posts : 236 Join date : 2008-09-29 Age : 32 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:09 am | |
| - calinis wrote:
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- No Hitler is a Sociopath, Castro is a man corrupt with power.
dude you're a nazi. That's the same scum ideology that Hitler held. you know apparentely NOTHING of structured anarchism, now i see why so many people on this forum hate you. nearly everything i have read you type was a guess of what i beileve, and each was incredibly WRONG. fail | |
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calinis Experienced Party Member
Posts : 966 Join date : 2008-06-26 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:10 am | |
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- you know apparentely NOTHING of structured anarchism, now i see why so many people on this forum hate you. nearly everything i have read you type was a guess of what i beileve, and each was incredibly WRONG.
fail HAHAHA I dont know what that is, but I know what nationalism socialism is. Dude look into the ideology. IT MEANS KILLING PEOPLE! | |
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Sill Senior Komsomol Member
Posts : 236 Join date : 2008-09-29 Age : 32 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:12 am | |
| - calinis wrote:
- HAHAHA
I dont know what that is, but I know what nationalism socialism is. Dude look into the ideology. IT MEANS KILLING PEOPLE! you fail yet again because its structured anarchism. oh and it doesnt imply killing people btw | |
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calinis Experienced Party Member
Posts : 966 Join date : 2008-06-26 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:15 am | |
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- you fail yet again because its structured anarchism. oh and it doesnt imply killing people btw
You said it's anarcho-nazism. Nazism imples killing people. Also if you dont havea government, do civilians start genocide? | |
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Sill Senior Komsomol Member
Posts : 236 Join date : 2008-09-29 Age : 32 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:17 am | |
| - calinis wrote:
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- you fail yet again because its structured anarchism. oh and it doesnt imply killing people btw
You said it's anarcho-nazism. Nazism imples killing people. Also if you dont havea government, do civilians start genocide? anarcho-nazism was a joke between me and liche before we even really started studying it togther, its really structured anarchism (as in government) | |
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calinis Experienced Party Member
Posts : 966 Join date : 2008-06-26 Age : 28
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:19 am | |
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- anarcho-nazism was a joke between me and liche before we even really started studying it togther, its really structured anarchism (as in government)
Isn't that an oxymoron? An anarchist society with a government? Wth...? Also what's with the swastika with the anarchist symbol for Liche's avator then? Because I like to suck monkey balls ? | |
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Sill Senior Komsomol Member
Posts : 236 Join date : 2008-09-29 Age : 32 Location : Germany
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:24 am | |
| - calinis wrote:
Isn't that an oxymoron? An anarchist society with a government? Wth...? Also what's with the swastika with the anarchist symbol for Liche's avator then? did i say it was anti-national socialism? Did i say it was anti-nationalism? did i say it was anti-anarchism? no. read up on it in the suggestion thread in the suggestion box originally started by liche, all questions on this will be explained as i do not want to do it all over again. | |
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Cyprian Uljanow World Republic Party Member
Posts : 690 Join date : 2008-03-25 Age : 45 Location : Wroclaw
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:11 pm | |
| This isn't a topic about Anarcho-nazism. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:55 pm | |
| Yes, Cypranian is right.
This is an introduction topic. | |
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enviro Member of the Supreme Council
Posts : 2629 Join date : 2008-02-05 Age : 25 Location : bite the power
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:33 am | |
| you know i havnt seen any of his/her post yet? and liche i got hotmail but tell me how to talk 2 you | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:15 am | |
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i havnt seen any of his/her post yet? and liche i got hotmail but tell me how to talk 2 you download windows live messenger, and where it says login out your hotmail address, and add olicheo@hotmail.com to your friends list (and wow Mozilla Fire fox knows my email in its dictionary). | |
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revolution Member of the WR Committee
Posts : 1042 Join date : 2007-10-15 Age : 31 Location : Yanqui central
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:37 am | |
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Kenzu Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1842 Join date : 2007-08-17 Age : 37 Location : Austria - Vienna
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:53 am | |
| Welcome to WR! - beatnikzach wrote:
- reformist communist isnt communist.
its an optimistic social democrat. both are communist. The path is different but the goal is the same. | |
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Black_Cross Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1702 Join date : 2008-04-04 Age : 35 Location : Sisyphean Hell
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Mon Oct 20, 2008 11:11 pm | |
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- both are communist.
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- The path is different but the goal is the same.
Yes, but if one path is blocked by a brick wall, surrounded by land mines, and covered with sniper fire, what's the point of traveling it? | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: Okay, so, who's this newb? Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:14 am | |
| - Black_Cross wrote:
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- both are communist.
Maybe.
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- The path is different but the goal is the same.
Yes, but if one path is blocked by a brick wall, surrounded by land mines, and covered with sniper fire, what's the point of traveling it? All right. So you can't Bolsheviks, and tell them freedom lies be hind the wall, then they try to cross the wall but trigger the landmines, there fore opening a gap for us Proletarians to walk through! poor Bolsheviks. | |
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