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PostSubject: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeWed Nov 19, 2008 9:37 pm

Austrian government has decided to lower income taxes by 2.2 billion Euro.

Here is a table on how much each person will save each month:

[tr][td]sdfsad[/td][/tr]
(1 Euro = 1.5 $)
Your income - old tax - new tax - you save per month
1100 ----------38 --------0 ----------38
2000 ---------383 -----329 ----------55
4000 --------1229 ---1159 ----------70
6000 ---------2159 ---2023 ---------136

Stupid government! How dare they decrease the taxes! In such a way!
What sense does it make to give greater tax cuts to people who earn more than to people who earn less?

I don't think that someone who earns 6000 Euros per month needs his 136 euros as much someone, who earns only 2000, or 1000.

Before, people paid 50% tax on all income above 51.000 Euros per annum, now they pay 50% only on income above 60.000 Euro per annum.

Crazy government!
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeWed Nov 19, 2008 9:43 pm

Well that's how capitalism works, that is, through absurdities.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeWed Nov 19, 2008 9:44 pm

They make it that evrything is "fair', liek you earn less, you get back less, you pay more, you get back more etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeWed Nov 19, 2008 9:56 pm

CoolKidX wrote:
They make it that evrything is "fair', liek you earn less, you get back less, you pay more, you get back more etc.
didnt made sence.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeWed Nov 19, 2008 9:59 pm

Tyrlop wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
They make it that evrything is "fair', liek you earn less, you get back less, you pay more, you get back more etc.
didnt made sence.


A guy with more moeny shouldnt pay more tax just for haveing more money, that isnt equal, and mayeb he could miss it indeed, btu then he could give it away to a roganastion ro a hobo, if he can miss it he can give it to a regluar ass guy.

But the good point about this is, that the tax is atleast lowered O.O
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeWed Nov 19, 2008 10:02 pm

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But the good point about this is, that the tax is atleast lowered O.O
no good point. tax = HIGH thats good point. more money for the people!

but if taxes are to high for the rich then big companys move to other countries. srsly, we have to give it a shot instead of this lol
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeThu Nov 20, 2008 3:34 am

lowut??

it's bad to lower taxes????

are you insane?t'S a bit "worse here, 33% for the milionaries and 36,5% for above 30,000$ and barly anything for those lower.

from a communist veiw i
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeThu Nov 20, 2008 4:31 pm

Tyrlop wrote:
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But the good point about this is, that the tax is atleast lowered O.O
no good point. tax = HIGH thats good point. more money for the people!

but if taxes are to high for the rich then big companys move to other countries. srsly, we have to give it a shot instead of this lol

Tax money goes to necary thigns in the society, for the people to, so yar actually the money goes to people.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeThu Nov 20, 2008 7:36 pm

CoolKidX wrote:
Tyrlop wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:

But the good point about this is, that the tax is atleast lowered O.O
no good point. tax = HIGH thats good point. more money for the people!

but if taxes are to high for the rich then big companys move to other countries. srsly, we have to give it a shot instead of this lol

Tax money goes to necary thigns in the society, for the people to, so yar actually the money goes to people.
not allways. look at Sarah Palin for example.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeThu Nov 20, 2008 9:15 pm

Liche wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:
Tyrlop wrote:
CoolKidX wrote:

But the good point about this is, that the tax is atleast lowered O.O
no good point. tax = HIGH thats good point. more money for the people!

but if taxes are to high for the rich then big companys move to other countries. srsly, we have to give it a shot instead of this lol

Tax money goes to necary thigns in the society, for the people to, so yar actually the money goes to people.
not allways. look at Sarah Palin for example.
loooooooooooooooooooooool
never have so few, spend so much, at so little.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeThu Nov 20, 2008 10:32 pm

mattabesta wrote:
lowut??

it's bad to lower taxes????

are you insane?t'S a bit "worse here, 33% for the milionaries and 36,5% for above 30,000$ and barly anything for those lower.

from a communist veiw i

Actually, from the Communist view - and you can find this right there in the Communist Manifesto - an extremely high income tax is a good thing and is, in fact, the first thing that Karl Marx advocates doing during the period of transitory Socialism. There's a list of ten things that Marx says should be achieved during this Socialist transition, and a heavy and progressive income tax is the first thing on that list.

EDIT: I just pulled out my copy of the Manifesto just to double check this, and I was wrong. It was the second thing on the list. Whatever.


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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeThu Nov 20, 2008 11:00 pm

WeiWuWei wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
lowut??

it's bad to lower taxes????

are you insane?t'S a bit "worse here, 33% for the milionaries and 36,5% for above 30,000$ and barly anything for those lower.

from a communist veiw i

Actually, from the Communist view - and you can find this right there in the Communist Manifesto - an extremely high income is a good thing and is, in fact, the first thing that Karl Marx advocates doing during the period of transitory Socialism. There's a list of ten things that Marx says should be achieved during this Socialist transition, and a heavy and progressive income tax is the first thing on that list.

EDIT: I just pulled out my copy of the Manifesto just to double check this, and I was wrong. It was the second thing on the list. Whatever.
yea but its bad if the people spend their money on crap, thats why the government shald controll what the people spend money on.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeFri Nov 21, 2008 1:39 am

Income tax is fucking retarded and immoral. You shouldn't tax someone because they are succesful.
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Income tax is fucking retarded and immoral. You shouldn't tax someone because they are succesful.
yes they should be taxed for stealin u know.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeFri Nov 21, 2008 6:26 am

Income tax is stealing.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeFri Nov 21, 2008 2:51 pm

I do have to admit, our current form of taxation is not only stealing, but it is also inherently violent.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeFri Nov 21, 2008 2:53 pm

Yea, I agree. Except I don't have to pay cause I'm lazy and have no job Sad. But I feel for you guys.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeSat Nov 22, 2008 9:38 am

WeiWuWei wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
lowut??

it's bad to lower taxes????

are you insane?t'S a bit "worse here, 33% for the milionaries and 36,5% for above 30,000$ and barly anything for those lower.

from a communist veiw i

Actually, from the Communist view - and you can find this right there in the Communist Manifesto - an extremely high income tax is a good thing and is, in fact, the first thing that Karl Marx advocates doing during the period of transitory Socialism. There's a list of ten things that Marx says should be achieved during this Socialist transition, and a heavy and progressive income tax is the first thing on that list.
He called those planks antiquated in 1872.
Also, I have no problem with making taxes higher, but they're pretty much going to go down anyways, the welfare state is fairly unsustainable. However, most taxes in, say, the US, go to fund the army.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeSat Nov 22, 2008 11:04 am

Normally I'd be totally against the ridiculously high amount of military spending in the US but since I'm now in the army.... I sorta like the checks.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeSat Nov 22, 2008 3:48 pm

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Normally I'd be totally against the ridiculously high amount of military spending in the US but since I'm now in the army.... I sorta like the checks.
haha Your in the army? how much is your pay check Question
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeSat Nov 22, 2008 4:17 pm

nillerz wrote:
Income tax is fucking retarded and immoral. You shouldn't tax someone because they are succesful.

Okay, have fun with your government that can't PAY FOR ANYTHING.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeSat Nov 22, 2008 4:28 pm

no, hes not saying tax is bad, just income tax.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeSat Nov 22, 2008 4:30 pm

Income taxes are still the backbone of it, is the thing. << Getting rid of an income tax would only force the U.S. into greater debt, so if it's ever done, it'd have to be when capitalism is riding high.
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeSun Nov 23, 2008 2:47 am

US may be in debt, but do you have any idea how much other countries OWE the US?
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PostSubject: Re: Austrian government lowered income tax   Austrian government lowered income tax Icon_minitimeSun Nov 23, 2008 2:58 am

mattabesta wrote:
lowut??

it's bad to lower taxes????

are you insane?t'S a bit "worse here, 33% for the milionaries and 36,5% for above 30,000$ and barly anything for those lower.

from a communist veiw i

Without taxes there will be no one to exinguish the fire once your home starts to burn, there will be no one to protect you from murderers and thiefs, there will be no one to give you monetary support once you get fired, there will be no one to light streets at night, there will be no one to educate all children and no one to heal all patients!


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US may be in debt, but do you have any idea how much other countries OWE the US?

No, but I know that USA owes China over 580.000.000.000 $, owes Japan over 500.000.000.000 $, owes UK over 380.000.000.000 $ and owes other countries a couple of bills too.
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