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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4639 Join date : 2008-02-14 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: A Woman in Berlin Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:36 pm | |
| German name(its a german movie) anonyma eine frau in berlin.
Its about a woman in Berlin who is a rape victim after WW2 by the Red Army in Berlin.
Sounds like a intresting movie. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:29 pm | |
| Would be inmensely overshadowed by "Kolya, the history of a Soviet boy murdered by Nazi troops in Moscow". | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:15 am | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- Would be inmensely overshadowed by "Kolya, the history of a Soviet boy murdered by Nazi troops in Moscow".
What are you trying to say? | |
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revolution Member of the WR Committee
Posts : 1042 Join date : 2007-10-15 Age : 30 Location : Yanqui central
| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:16 am | |
| that German war crimes tended to outweigh Red Army? | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:22 am | |
| - revolution wrote:
- that German war crimes tended to outweigh Red Army?
Its still both terrible war crimes. Why not make a movie about it. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:44 am | |
| I mean that there is already enough bias against the Red Army. Making more bias is just like inyecting lard to a sumo fighter. | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:07 am | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- I mean that there is already enough bias against the Red Army. Making more bias is just like inyecting lard to a sumo fighter.
I don't think there was a movie about woman getting raped by the Red army yet, so yaa...thye make a movie abou it 'cause they want money or have a message that it sucked then. And its true that many woman got raped so its not like bias its just the truth, like nazi's hanging Russian people for only one louzy picture(its true for the picture). | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:34 am | |
| - CoolKidX wrote:
And its true that many woman got raped so its not like bias its just the truth, like nazi's hanging Russian people for only one louzy picture(its true for the picture). Who said it wasn't true? Being it true or not doesn't counter the fact that it is anti-Red Army bias. The sea doesn't need another teaspoon of salty water. | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:50 pm | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- CoolKidX wrote:
And its true that many woman got raped so its not like bias its just the truth, like nazi's hanging Russian people for only one louzy picture(its true for the picture). Being it true or not doesn't counter the fact that it is anti-Red Army bias So? | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:12 pm | |
| - CoolKidX wrote:
So? Since there's already too much of it, it's unnecesary. | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:14 pm | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- CoolKidX wrote:
So? Since there's already too much of it, it's unnecesary. Maybe in your opnion. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:24 pm | |
| - CoolKidX wrote:
Maybe in your opnion. And what am I claiming? Yet, it is an objective fact that there is already a bunch of anti-red Army propaganda. It's not like people are unaware of Red Army's crimes, however they are misinformed: due to the extreme amount of bias created during the Cold War, it's impossible for most westerners to have an objective position towards the Red Army and USSR getting to tag them as "evil". Given this fact, more anti-Red Army propaganda is already unnecesary. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:58 pm | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- I mean that there is already enough bias against the Red Army. Making more bias is just like inyecting lard to a sumo fighter.
Zealot its about the person, not their Ideology. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:10 am | |
| - Liche wrote:
Zealot its about the person, not their Ideology. 1.They could have chosen any other rape context then. 2. Who's talking about ideology here? | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:46 am | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- Liche wrote:
Zealot its about the person, not their Ideology. 1.They could have chosen any other rape context then. 2. Who's talking about ideology here? well I was just saying its not cause either: A.) they are Nazis or B.) they are Reds its cause C.) they are fucked up | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:59 am | |
| - Liche wrote:
well I was just saying its not cause either: A.) they are Nazis or B.) they are Reds
its cause
C.) they are fucked up Everyone will interpret that movie the way they want. And, if they chose that context is for a good reason, they didn't randomly pick it up. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:29 am | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- Liche wrote:
well I was just saying its not cause either: A.) they are Nazis or B.) they are Reds
its cause
C.) they are fucked up
Everyone will interpret that movie the way they want. And, if they chose that context is for a good reason, they didn't randomly pick it up. because thats the way the mind functions... | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:11 am | |
| - Liche wrote:
because thats the way the mind functions... Hence, they chose that context because they wanted people to link rape with the Red Army. | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:22 pm | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- Would be inmensely overshadowed by "Kolya, the history of a Soviet boy murdered by Nazi troops in Moscow".
but there were never Nazi troops in Moskow... and yes Y not aoutomatically asume that evry soildier that ever raped someone was a real communist? but that can't be true becuse the USSR was never really communist so ppl that hate "USSR communism" don't hat your Ideolagy. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:12 pm | |
| - mattabesta wrote:
but there were never Nazi troops in Moskow... They got to the outskirts. - mattabesta wrote:
and yes Y not aoutomatically asume that evry soildier that ever raped someone was a real communist? What? - mattabesta wrote:
but that can't be true becuse the USSR was never really communist so ppl that hate "USSR communism" don't hat your Ideolagy. That's not even a kind of communism and rape doesn't even have to do with ideology. Rape by the Red Army forces in Germany happened under a very specific context that goes even beyond simple abuse of force and strength. My point is that there is already too much bias against the USSR preventing people from objectively judging it. USSR is gone, those things happened 63 years ago and under a very specific context. There's no need for more of that. | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:17 pm | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
- mattabesta wrote:
but there were never Nazi troops in Moskow... They got to the outskirts.
- mattabesta wrote:
and yes Y not aoutomatically asume that evry soildier that ever raped someone was a real communist? What?
- mattabesta wrote:
but that can't be true becuse the USSR was never really communist so ppl that hate "USSR communism" don't hat your Ideolagy. That's not even a kind of communism and rape doesn't even have to do with ideology. Rape by the Red Army forces in Germany happened under a very specific context that goes even beyond simple abuse of force and strength.
My point is that there is already too much bias against the USSR preventing people from objectively judging it. USSR is gone, those things happened 63 years ago and under a very specific context. There's no need for more of that. zelot nobody gives a fuck but you USSR isn't liked to modren communism. and I read yes they did get to the outskirts with about a 300 man recon troop wich was completly whiped out. | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:18 pm | |
| - Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
My point is that there is already too much bias against the USSR preventing people from objectively judging it. USSR is gone, those things happened 63 years ago and under a very specific context. There's no need for more of that. Maybe other people think diffrent about that. And its just about how it sucked in Berlin after WW2, why? Cause troops were raping woman. So it isnt really bias against the red army it just included the red army how it sucked in Berlin then. | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:23 pm | |
| - CoolKidX wrote:
- Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
My point is that there is already too much bias against the USSR preventing people from objectively judging it. USSR is gone, those things happened 63 years ago and under a very specific context. There's no need for more of that. Maybe other people think diffrent about that.
And its just about how it sucked in Berlin after WW2, why? Cause troops were raping woman.
So it isnt really bias against the red army it just included the red army how it sucked in Berlin then. yeas it could also be becuse it was in total ruins?? | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:51 pm | |
| - CoolKidX wrote:
Maybe other people think diffrent about that. They cannot think that the context was not specific because it's not a subjective truth but an objective one. - CoolKidX wrote:
And its just about how it sucked in Berlin after WW2, why? Cause troops were raping woman.
So it isnt really bias against the red army it just included the red army how it sucked in Berlin then. And what's the need for that? | |
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CoolKidX Chairman of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: A Woman in Berlin Sat Dec 20, 2008 12:01 am | |
| The need for that? The need for a movie which shows it sucked in Berlin?
(I don't understand what you are saying) | |
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