Religion and communism

Compatible these two notions? The Scientific communism denies in general existence of the God, but One deal to believe in the God i.e. essence created and controlling world. But the other deal to believe in origin society to social fairness, founding on History fact - a growing of production power and occurring hereupon change sytucture. Mix two these faiths at all It is impossible., what your opinion? Possible exist communism with religion?

if you look at some of the very early communal movements, they were all religion based.
not saying that i advocate them but, take a look.
ghandi, mlk, dostoevsky, tolstoy utah phillip, abbie hoffman, franz kafka, allen ginsberg, and there are loads more of religious anarchists/communists.
what im saying is while im an atheist, to deny anyone rights to there own beliefs, is doing exactly what the capitalists do.
i fail to see the link between religion and communism not working.
besides, most religious texts preach anarchism and communism, just in different terms.

btw welcome to the forum comrade.

beatnikzach wrote:

what im saying is while im an atheist, to deny anyone rights to there own beliefs, is doing exactly what the capitalists do.

Except for the "atheist" part, I'm a theistic agnostic, I second this.

beatnikzach wrote:

i fail to see the link between religion and communism not working.
besides, most religious texts preach anarchism and communism, just in different terms.

Seconded. I think that so long as the religion doesn't favour class divisions and exploitation, everything is fine.

But you do deny the belief of Capitalism don't you?

Liche wrote:

But you do deny the belief of Capitalism don't you?

It's sad to have to quote oneself:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

I think that so long as the religion doesn't favour class divisions and exploitation, everything is fine.

no, sorry, I was referring to Beatnik.

I myself am a Christian, and a Communist. From my studies of Christianity, there is nothing in the Bible that would contradict Communist or Socialist Economic Theories, and even supports the two in some ways ( The Community helping the poor, ect ).

Although Pure Marxism claims to be viable on the basis of Evolution, which can contradict religion as a whole.

Religion can coexist with Communism.

No God......simply person it is necessary in something believe, believe that something always will his(its), but save without faith beside person will not be a hopes, religion and communism nesovmestimy. person must takes care not on how to descend in church, but on how to build ideal society

Comrade Konstantin wrote:

No God......simply person it is necessary in something believe, believe that something always will his(its), but save without faith beside person will not be a hopes, religion and communism nesovmestimy. person must takes care not on how to descend in church, but on how to build ideal society

Ты уверен что ты готов для обсуждения политических тем на английском?

i think that religion slowly will disappear by time.

Religion helps state to check us

Comrade Konstantin wrote:

Religion helps state to check us

Religious institution, not religion.

Liche wrote:

But you do deny the belief of Capitalism don't you?

we dont deny anyone the right to preach it, but privatizing shit in a collectivized society, couldnt possibly go over to well.
denying the right to preach capitalism, albeit stupid as shit, means we would be doing the same thing that the capitalists have done to us.

It's possiable. But as we know, religon brings conflict and conflict brings inequalities. I dont think it would work, but if you find a way i'd support you. Im agonistic btw.

Tyrlop wrote:

i think that religion slowly will disappear by time.

This.

Zach raises many important points in his first post, so I can't be buggered to contribute anything else.

I will just mention that I am a virulent Antitheist, so even though I think the two ideas - Socialism and religion - can be compatible, I don't want them to come together. I love my Socialism, but I'm not a fan of religion - and not just religious institutions, but faith as well.

WeiWuWei wrote:

I will just mention that I am a virulent Antitheist, so even though I think the two ideas - Socialism and religion - can be compatible, I don't want them to come together. I love my Socialism, but I'm not a fan of religion - and not just religious institutions, but faith as well.

Something that, as a good anarchist you can't prevent