Hiya

mononokifool wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

humm,umm, Liberals??

Yeah the US democrats are an example of Liberals.

I don't think so..

ummm what else would you consider as liberal?

Liberals.
heven't seen those lately.

mattabesta wrote:

Liberals.
heven't seen those lately.

I forgot you take everything literally. If a party is named "Happy Environmentalist Peace party", they're the happy environmentalist peacemongerers, it doesn't matter if they burn entire forests and pour sulfuric acid in rivers, they're environmentalist because they decided to name themselves that way. And then "environmentalism" becomes a synonim of the "doctrine that pursues the destruction of the environment". Just because some party decided to name itself environmentalist while beig anti-environmentalist.

Actions don't matter, just names.

Matti, on which grounds aren't democrats liberals?

It's good to have a libertarian on the forums, although I strongly disagree with most libertarian policies, the libertarians aren't stupid like the Neo-Cons!

That said, Welcome! I look forward to many a debate/rant.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

Liberals.
heven't seen those lately.

I forgot you take everything literally. If a party is named "Happy Environmentalist Peace party", they're the happy environmentalist peacemongerers, it doesn't matter if they burn entire forests and pour sulfuric acid in rivers, they're environmentalist because they decided to name themselves that way. And then "environmentalism" becomes a synonim of the "doctrine that pursues the destruction of the environment". Just because some party decided to name itself environmentalist while beig anti-environmentalist.

Actions don't matter, just names.

Matti, on which grounds aren't democrats liberals?

democrats aren't liberal if they weree then the us wun't be as it is.

mattabesta wrote:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

Liberals.
heven't seen those lately.

I forgot you take everything literally. If a party is named "Happy Environmentalist Peace party", they're the happy environmentalist peacemongerers, it doesn't matter if they burn entire forests and pour sulfuric acid in rivers, they're environmentalist because they decided to name themselves that way. And then "environmentalism" becomes a synonim of the "doctrine that pursues the destruction of the environment". Just because some party decided to name itself environmentalist while beig anti-environmentalist.

Actions don't matter, just names.

Matti, on which grounds aren't democrats liberals?

democrats aren't liberal if they weree then the us wun't be as it is.

The democrats are liberal....they just havnt been in power. the republicans have.

mononokifool wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

Liberals.
heven't seen those lately.

I forgot you take everything literally. If a party is named "Happy Environmentalist Peace party", they're the happy environmentalist peacemongerers, it doesn't matter if they burn entire forests and pour sulfuric acid in rivers, they're environmentalist because they decided to name themselves that way. And then "environmentalism" becomes a synonim of the "doctrine that pursues the destruction of the environment". Just because some party decided to name itself environmentalist while beig anti-environmentalist.

Actions don't matter, just names.

Matti, on which grounds aren't democrats liberals?

democrats aren't liberal if they weree then the us wun't be as it is.

The democrats are liberal....they just havnt been in power. the republicans have.

oh yeah sorry I forgot I was like 7 when bush came to office.

DEMS=LIBERALS.

IT ARE FACT.

sorry, had to.

nillerz wrote:

DEMS=LIBERALS.

IT ARE FACT.

sorry, had to.

dems= to rightist for me.

mattabesta wrote:

nillerz wrote:

DEMS=LIBERALS.

IT ARE FACT.

sorry, had to.

dems= to rightist for me.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about at all. If you are truly a capitalist then democrats would be too left for you.

mononokifool wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

nillerz wrote:

DEMS=LIBERALS.

IT ARE FACT.

sorry, had to.

dems= to rightist for me.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about at all. If you are truly a capitalist then democrats would be too left for you.

I am 53% rightist on a scale from 1-100 one being communist and right being neo-liberal.

mattabesta wrote:

mononokifool wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

nillerz wrote:

DEMS=LIBERALS.

IT ARE FACT.

sorry, had to.

dems= to rightist for me.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about at all. If you are truly a capitalist then democrats would be too left for you.

I am 53% rightist on a scale from 1-100 one being communist and right being neo-liberal.

rightist is the right side of the scale to me

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dems= to rightist for me.

Democrats are social liberals, like you claim to be. Social Democrats support capitalism but are left of liberals. You support capitalism and are left of liberals. Therefore you are a social democrat.

Join the right wingers. We aren't all bible-fuckers.

nillerz wrote:

Join the right wingers. We aren't all bible-fuckers.

here here Rawr... so.. you wanna join the AR party?

AR.. describe that.

Authoritarian Right... Fascist party.. I feel lonely

Just becous I don't believe in a Book doesn't mean I'm a Bible fucker... I mean ScientLOLogy also has a book written where its aaaaaaalll explained... why shouldn't I just relive them?

Simple:

Pics or it didn't happen.

I rest my case


Welcome! ^o^

I don't like libertarians, they piss me off. R0n P4ul R3v0lut10n!

Ron Paul fanboys piss me off too. OMG LIEK RON PAUL LOL!

But seriously folks, he's a smart man, and I think he's a good thing for our country. It's the fanboys that annoy me.

Hell no I'm not joining AR. I'm against the authority. Government has no right to tell me what to do. No one does. I'm a firm believer that the government i there to protect my rights, not deny them

The government is there to ensure the dominance of capitalists over the workers.

Pannekoek wrote:

The government is there to ensure the dominance of capitalists over the workers.

LOL you are so weird you have all those conspircy thoreys that the goverment is evil and bad.

The "conspircy thoreys" can be seen to be true by opening your eyes.

Our government is evil and bad. They do a shit job. Laissez Faire is actually code for "Help the businesses out because they have money and will give it to me". Marxism can't change that. Marxism can only make it worse. At the end of the day, all government is bad, it's just that things we do need them for are so important that we need them.

nillerz wrote:

Our government is evil and bad. They do a shit job. Laissez Faire is actually code for "Help the businesses out because they have money and will give it to me".

So basically, your just against everything huh? lawls, one of those "trust nobody" people.

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Marxism can't change that.

No it can't. Ideas aren't usually capable of doing such things. Marxists, on the other hand, will change the government in the most drastic way: by (gradually) abolishing it.