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mattabesta
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PostSubject: Re: Less red?   Less red? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 04, 2008 12:42 am

mononokifool wrote:
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mononokifool wrote:
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Liche wrote:
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yea because the American Civil War where almost every southern family has at least one relative who died for freedom isnt a real war amirite
It's true, I live in a town that was a military fort during the civil war. We have confederate graveyards everywhere. There is still A LOT of tension between the North and the South. I know you guys in other countries don't really get to hear about that stuff but many people still wish the south should have won.

You would be supprised by the number of people who deny, or don't know that Virginia (the capital of CSA) is South of the Mason Dixon.
wasn't virginia on the CAS side?
I ain't gettin to me the american civil war was really just minor.
It was minor? Look in the south, most of the state flags still have the confederate flag in them. Including the state i live in , Florida


so you still want slaves?
No i don't. But there are many, many people who would. lots of people like this [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGZG91EU4Y0
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PostSubject: Re: Less red?   Less red? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 04, 2008 3:51 am

When you live in USA, you really notice the North/South tensions... and staying in Virginia... well I think that state is symbolic on the civil war.
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PostSubject: Re: Less red?   Less red? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 04, 2008 3:54 am

mononokifool wrote:
most of the state flags still have the confederate flag in them. Including the state i live in , Florida

Actually, that's the flag ensign of the Tennessee Navy. The so-called "Confed" flag was used to, not to show rivalry bewteen North and South, but to have all veterans of the Civil War to unite. Smile

But yeah, the whole "North vs South" issue in the US brings LOTS of lulz to me. It's stupid really and just goes to show the overpowerment of "American exceptionalism" even moar.

MOAR! XD
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PostSubject: Re: Less red?   Less red? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Apr 04, 2008 8:31 am

mattabesta wrote:
so you still want slaves?
STOP! The American Civil War had very, very, very little to do with Slavary. It was just the peak of what started after the revolution. The South didnt even want to leave England. Then the Urban North wanted the Government to control everything((Understandable since running a city needs to be as simple as posible)) but the south wanted the cities, states, etc to control government not the Federal Government.

Another reasons is Tarrifs that only were good for the North. If the south cant sell stuff then they cannot live, There is a reason thesouth started the war poor.
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Diogritor wrote:
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so you still want slaves?
STOP! The American Civil War had very, very, very little to do with Slavary. It was just the peak of what started after the revolution. The South didnt even want to leave England. Then the Urban North wanted the Government to control everything((Understandable since running a city needs to be as simple as posible)) but the south wanted the cities, states, etc to control government not the Federal Government.

Another reasons is Tarrifs that only were good for the North. If the south cant sell stuff then they cannot live, There is a reason thesouth started the war poor.
Exactly. It all started with States Rights. They wanted the federal gov. to only protect the nation and let the states completely govern themselves. Also terrifs that were good for the industrialized north while the farmers of the south suffered. Lincoln brought Liberation into the picture when they were trying to get more soldiers out of the fleeing slaves of the south
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PostSubject: Re: Less red?   Less red? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 05, 2008 7:48 pm

Diogritor wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
so you still want slaves?
STOP! The American Civil War had very, very, very little to do with Slavary. It was just the peak of what started after the revolution. The South didnt even want to leave England. Then the Urban North wanted the Government to control everything((Understandable since running a city needs to be as simple as posible)) but the south wanted the cities, states, etc to control government not the Federal Government.

Another reasons is Tarrifs that only were good for the North. If the south cant sell stuff then they cannot live, There is a reason thesouth started the war poor.

I know that they didn't what feds but to start a war about it is stupid.
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Maybe this is what has been meant by dictatorship of the proletariat!
No, dictatorship of the proletariat means a government controlled by the proletariat. It is often thought to be an actual dictatorship but it is not. It is a dictatorship of the working class as a whole over the capitalists. Dictatorship of the proletariat is another name for socialism just as dictatorship of the bourgeoisie is another name for capitalism. When the bourgeoisie ceases to exist, there can be no dictatorship of the proletariat because there is no other class for it to rule over. That's when socialism changes into communism.
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Maybe this is what has been meant by dictatorship of the proletariat!
No, dictatorship of the proletariat means a government controlled by the proletariat. It is often thought to be an actual dictatorship but it is not. It is a dictatorship of the working class as a whole over the capitalists. Dictatorship of the proletariat is another name for socialism just as dictatorship of the bourgeoisie is another name for capitalism. When the bourgeoisie ceases to exist, there can be no dictatorship of the proletariat because there is no other class for it to rule over. That's when socialism changes into communism.

cool you just said a bunch of stuff I don´t get
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PostSubject: Re: Less red?   Less red? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed Apr 09, 2008 3:06 am

You know half your posts are saying you don't know what people are talking about. AFter a while it starts to get annoying.
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PostSubject: Re: Less red?   Less red? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed Apr 09, 2008 10:54 am

mattabesta wrote:
Diogritor wrote:
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so you still want slaves?
STOP! The American Civil War had very, very, very little to do with Slavary. It was just the peak of what started after the revolution. The South didnt even want to leave England. Then the Urban North wanted the Government to control everything((Understandable since running a city needs to be as simple as posible)) but the south wanted the cities, states, etc to control government not the Federal Government.

Another reasons is Tarrifs that only were good for the North. If the south cant sell stuff then they cannot live, There is a reason thesouth started the war poor.

I know that they didn't what feds but to start a war about it is stupid.
after 100 years of that crap the south got preaty tired of the norths bullcrap. wars have been started for less.
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PostSubject: Re: Less red?   Less red? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed Apr 09, 2008 4:35 pm

I think an orange color would be better. Red and yellow... too pinko for my taste.
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You know half your posts are saying you don't know what people are talking about. AFter a while it starts to get annoying.
so aaking, what's going on is inoying, wow, I would love to be your littel sister.
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My sister is extremely annoying.
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My sister is extremely annoying.
LOL I thought so, but I have 7 sisters so I am NOT feeling sorry for you.
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Wow that must suck. Neutral
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Wow that must suck. Neutral
oh, not really since 3 of them are old enuf not to be inoying, but the othere 4, kill me.
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Run away from home. lol!
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Pannekoek wrote:
Run away from home. lol!

lol to were?????
anyway sometimes they are too cute to resist.
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As soon as I can drive I'm going to Canada.
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