the weatherman organization

the weatherman organization, a marxist guerrilla organization, who tried to bring amerika to the verge of civil war like the may uprising in france.

terrorites

please discuss why you feel that way

they tried to bring war to america, at least thats what you said.

as in revolution.

then theyr idealist.

Watermelon wrote:

then theyr idealist.

......auh.... is that ALL you can do? Just call them "idealist"? Even after they tried to demolish the capital of capitalism with violence? That's revolution. An uprising of the people. Just how is that ideal?!

Marx called for revolution, did he not?

Heck, forget it. You're an highly immature brick wall whenever it comes to debates, falling back on petty insults such as "idealist" when you get utterly pwn'd. Ugh. >.<

I'm calling the police. >_<

please wuit spamming. all you did is insult me and give no argument. i mite have to contact kenzu if this continues.

plus they call for a revolution before the material conditions are ripe. that is idealist.

god damn it watermelon, so an uprising of the people, in any form, is bad if the "material conditions" arent ripe? its like talking to a fucking child. you also didnt think the "material conditions of the proletariat in early 20th centuary Russia, werent ripe either." every statement you make has seriously lost all of the credence it ever possibly could have had.

I never heard of this org before. So it cant have been a big uprising. If it wasn't big, that means it was not the people rising up, but some ideologically diverted kids.

it was small it was a student movement, but i was saying that any uprising of the people, ie the russian revolution, is bad according to watermelon.

As long as they stay non-violent, uprisings are OK with me.

betnkzaosh: its not bad its idaelist

dude your starting to sound like you dread revolution.

your starting to sound like a broken record playing bourgeois propaganda.

LOL!
radical leftist bourgeoisie propaganda, that is the stupidest fucking thing i have ever heard.

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

Watermelon wrote:

then theyr idealist.

......auh.... is that ALL you can do? Just call them "idealist"? Even after they tried to demolish the capital of capitalism with violence? That's revolution. An uprising of the people. Just how is that ideal?!

Marx called for revolution, did he not?

Heck, forget it. You're an highly immature brick wall whenever it comes to debates, falling back on petty insults such as "idealist" when you get utterly pwn'd. Ugh. >.<

I'm calling the police. >_<

they are freedom fighters becuse they tried to gain power for themselfs trought war wich usally ends up Killing a whole lot of pepole in this case americans before they got stupid.


why do you all support revulutions????
if you had brains larger than the size of a bloody peanut then you would unerstand that all othere cuntryes would react to ANY not just communist insatbility in a neighbouring cuntry. Secondly why follow the words of a man born into a herdictal societ wich included opressed women slaves and no restrictions to working time no socal security and taxes for the poor were like 75% not to mention that workers were unprotected from deadly fumes. Now sure this was the capitalists fault but they also later improved the conditions of workers obviusly showing they aren't decendant from the devil like you suggest.

the time of communism is long gone it's power base of poor has shrunk
now 10% in most cuintryes) and factoryes today are much better regulated and pay isn't as bad.

Marx idelolagy is so old that germany wasn´t even a singel state, britan was still an empier and the world was just beginning to industryalise.

Total BULLSHIT. The simple fact that my father told me over 65% of Americans are lower class/poverty refutes EVERYTHING what you just said mattabesta.

Simply put, capitalism FAILS.

You think revolutionaries like war?! Hell no, they only support violence because they KNOW the cappies will oppress them like the bugs they are with military strength and shit. It's happened in my "democratic" country of Korea and America to a lesser extent. My father protested against the government and he was threatened with death.

And you call that democratic? Fuck no! Cappie governments only exist to exploit the poor and oppress the masses!

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

Total BULLSHIT. The simple fact that my father told me over 65% of Americans are lower class/poverty refutes EVERYTHING what you just said mattabesta.

Simply put, capitalism FAILS.

You think revolutionaries like war?! Hell no, they only support violence because they KNOW the cappies will oppress them like the bugs they are with military strength and shit. It's happened in my "democratic" country of Korea and America to a lesser extent. My father protested against the government and he was threatened with death.

And you call that democratic? Fuck no! Cappie governments only exist to exploit the poor and oppress the masses!

when your ideolagy involves killing someone then the goverment can be a littel opressive.

and povrety in the us 12-15% wich is a very larg pwn

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_America

Dude. Just LOOK what capitalism did. You think capitalism is great?! FUCK NO. Just look at Latin America! The Phillipines! They are SUFFERING because of their "pro-American" stance and they DID NOT even want America. They are fucking POOR as hell because they were fucking INVADED by the Facists States of America!

Get it ALRITE!!!!?!!!

My ideology killing someone? Pfft, sure. I would LOVE to kill somebody because some dudes with money are taking away my rights and my family, putting them in prison for not even paying the FUCKING RENT. Yeah, I kill them because they killed and jailed my family first. And that makes me a fucking commie bastard who would love to kill everybody and everything because they are unhappy. :sarcasm:

Look at what capitalism did for America. In my region here, my friends cannot afford worth crap because of "grate capitalism". My friends are on the verge of collapsing because of "grate capitalism". They are gonna SUFFER for no fucking reason because of they HAVE to pay fucking money to keep themselves alive and fed because of "grate capitalism".

I just about died because of capitalism you prick and here you are saying it is grate because of some fucking greenbacks.

Get a life and STUDY some books.

oh no your frinds are dieng becuse of capitalism,
like I give a shit.

latin amreica is suffering you idiot do you even follow global news latin america is fucking booming

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Gdp_real_growth_rate_2007_CIA_Factbook.PNG

i don't think you go to jail for not paying rent but not paying rent can go under fraud in some cases.

sure the usa has invaded 3-4 latin americans states but 3 off those before fucking 1920.

capitalist are taking away your rightfull money????
go to the fucking police and report them now!!!

OMG! You are fucking BLIND! Don't you EVER FUCKING believe in that CIA factbooks shit. In some other forum, there is a Brazilian who vists regularly and you know what he had to say about his country's healthcare?

"Absolute shit. People DIE of the flu before they can see a doctor."

Where's your "rich capitalism" NOW, biatch!?

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:

OMG! You are fucking BLIND! Don't you EVER FUCKING believe in that CIA factbooks shit. In some other forum, there is a Brazilian who vists regularly and you know what he had to say about his country's healthcare?

"Absolute shit. People DIE of the flu before they can see a doctor."

Where's your "rich capitalism" NOW, biatch!?

your right, brazills heath care sucks ass but becuse of capitalism it's improving fast.


The public system is still grossly underfunded and lacking quality, though that's been improving greatly in the last few years. Important legal issues, such as the regulation of Constitutional Amendment 29, are expected to minimize some of those problems.
Private Health Insurance is widely available in Brazil and may be purchased on an individual-basis or obtained as a work benefit (major employers usually offer private health insurance benefits). Public health care is still accessible for those who choose to obtain private health insurance. As of March, 2007, more than 37 million Brazilians had some sort of private health insurance [2].

Yeah SUUUURRRREEEE. Like it's gonna get any better. Ask the people over there and see for yourself. They hate what America has done to them.

They've had over 50 years to correct themselves and get American "help". But what happens? Nothing. Because the people live in absolute poverty. They cannot live because of capitalism. Plain and simply, they are dying over there because of what America has done to them.

That is unforgivable.

hey just one coup in what 200 years that has to be a record for the us.
but were talking capitalism not the us.