Abortion

Ok, first, I'm thinking about that subject since 5 days and I just can't make any real decision about my point of view. I found out it may be interresting to discuss about that and see what's exactly your point of view on the subject.

So, personnally, I think that life is important, and that abortion is like killing a baby. Humans are not gods, they can't decide if a person may live or die! The person who din't took the protection may pay for it, that's all.

But I also think about the babies. A person that don't wanna have a kid will simply be unable to raise it correctly. They will not take care correclty of their kid, that's praticlly sure.

I can't decide; that's why I wanna know your own point of view.

What do you think about Abortion?

If the kid is raise in some sort of crazy family, that will be very unpretty for him, but, who knows, he could be a great lawyer, or the prime minister if he got the chance to live and carry on...Also..In the other hand, there is the mother, who made a mistake and pay the big price for it. Abortion is the solution to save her life.

Just 'can't decide.

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Abortion is the solution to save her life.

Yeah, and save her soon from misery and pain. There's cases where parents really want their kid, but just can't.

But the other side always says "Who are you to decide if your kid may live or die!"

A kid under 3 months isn't born nor awake . He don't talk, he don't volunteerly interact...he is on his way to be human, but he is not yet a person. It's not immoral to stop his development , it's not a murder.

only for things like Rape

Little conservative ?

AllMightyShadow wrote:

Little conservative ?

I just think if they get that far they deserve a chance to live

You right...after three months, of course.

No. Murder in any kind cannot be tolerated.

It depens. I have a large list of things that make abortion legal, but there are to many for me to post (mostly cause I'm too lazy) but any ways, I support it.

Simple as this:

In my view, abortion is murder since the life of the new human being begins with conception.

I just support abortion when pregnancy will mean both's death unless it is interrupted; and probably in case pregnancy is product of rape.

I agree with you, but we may think about that kid who will grow with parents that never wanted them. Their parents may become violents just because "they never supported kids". If somebody don't wanna have any child, there's probably a reason. The simple fact that they don't wanna raise a kid is enought.

And we have to think about deferent cases and scenarios possible... Accidents exists, even if we take care...

prevention should be free and easyer to acces, end of discussion
.DOT.

Lilith wrote:

I agree with you, but we may think about that kid who will grow with parents that never wanted them. Their parents may become violents just because "they never supported kids". If somebody don't wanna have any child, there's probably a reason. The simple fact that they don't wanna raise a kid is enought.

And we have to think about deferent cases and scenarios possible... Accidents exists, even if we take care...

I agree.

Lilith wrote:

I agree with you, but we may think about that kid who will grow with parents that never wanted them. Their parents may become violents just because "they never supported kids". If somebody don't wanna have any child, there's probably a reason. The simple fact that they don't wanna raise a kid is enought.

And we have to think about deferent cases and scenarios possible... Accidents exists, even if we take care...

Parents how treat ther cildren bad just because the dont wonted them are bastards that should rot in jail, but i got your point, im not a enemy of abortion

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Lilith wrote:

I agree with you, but we may think about that kid who will grow with parents that never wanted them. Their parents may become violents just because "they never supported kids". If somebody don't wanna have any child, there's probably a reason. The simple fact that they don't wanna raise a kid is enought.

And we have to think about deferent cases and scenarios possible... Accidents exists, even if we take care...

We should know the possible implications of havig sex. We know that when we have sex we risk ourselves both to STDs and to pregnancy, or even both in the worst of cases if its undesired. So, from the start, sex implies RESPONSABILITY. We know 99% of the scenarios that can result from a sexual relationship.

Now, considering abortion murder (as interruption of life) and justifying it just because the pregnancy is undesired is like justifying the murder of a 2 month old baby whose parents killed after repenting to have him.


So my point is this. If you're going to have sex, get ready to face absolutely every implication that may bring.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Lilith wrote:

I agree with you, but we may think about that kid who will grow with parents that never wanted them. Their parents may become violents just because "they never supported kids". If somebody don't wanna have any child, there's probably a reason. The simple fact that they don't wanna raise a kid is enought.

And we have to think about deferent cases and scenarios possible... Accidents exists, even if we take care...

We should know the possible implications of havig sex. We know that when we have sex we risk ourselves both to STDs and to pregnancy, or even both in the worst of cases if its undesired. So, from the start, sex implies RESPONSABILITY. We know 99% of the scenarios that can result from a sexual relationship.

Now, considering abortion murder (as interruption of life) and justifying it just because the pregnancy is undesired is like justifying the murder of a 2 month old baby whose parents killed after repenting to have him.


So my point is this. If you're going to have sex, get ready to face absolutely every implication that may bring.

Or be like 85% of the world and pretend these things can't happen to you.

Liche wrote:

Or be like 85% of the world and pretend these things can't happen to you.

That doesn't justify murder for irresponsibility.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Liche wrote:

Or be like 85% of the world and pretend these things can't happen to you.

That doesn't justify murder for irresponsibility.

I know thats what I was trying to say.

But any ways I support it in several cases (like I said before) some people arent right for kids. If your like screw it I'm to buisy for a kid, then you shouldnt be able to get one. But if your like "I cant financially support one, and if I did have one, I wouldn't be able to keep my job" it would be differn't.

Liche wrote:

But any ways I support it in several cases (like I said before) some people arent right for kids. If your like screw it I'm to buisy for a kid, then you shouldnt be able to get one. But if your like "I cant financially support one, and if I did have one, I wouldn't be able to keep my job" it would be differn't.

If people are going to have sex they know what sex can imply, ther are both chemical and mechanical (condoms) contraceptives. If they fail, well, pregnancy is a possible consequence. Any sexually active person's got to be responsible.

What if a woman gets raped?

What if a man drugs a woman and impregnates her?

What if an alien lays an egg in your stomach?

In all situations, a woman can give birth to the baby and then give it to the orphanage. It would be better than killing it.

Liche wrote:

What if a woman gets raped?

I support Riddler's arguement above. It'd be nice if that woman has enough respect for human life to singlehandedly undergo that forced pregnancy, would be admirable.

Liche wrote:

What if a man drugs a woman and impregnates her?

I think is the same case as above but with drugs.... if it doens't have further clinical consequences then the same applies.

Liche wrote:

What if an alien lays an egg in your stomach?

You were not serious about this one right? This qualifies as alien parasitoc activity, not as pregnancy. Getting rid of such is like taking a medicine to eliminate amebas.

Ook! Lilith's back!!!

Well, ok...That's far from being stupid, but I disagree with this argument. The baby can totally ruin the life of that girl. Maybe she study and she don't have the time, the energy and don't have the money. There's many girls between 13 and 18 years old that got raped. I'm thinking about that since many days, and you know, I just think that the only person that have the right to decide is the woman. Believe me, that's an hard choice to do, for anyone, anywhere. Nobody can do that kind of decision without thinking, thinking, and thinking again about the situation.

But I still disagree abortion after 3 months. There's a limit for all.