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enviro Member of the Supreme Council
Posts : 2629 Join date : 2008-02-05 Age : 25 Location : bite the power
| Subject: can green coexist with capitalism Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:05 am | |
| i,ve been hearing no for a while so im just wonderin? its called green capitalism or eco-cash, and im wondering your opinoin i mean its erfectly reasonable and any kind of green is good, but also can green really coexist with other systems asll well plz give me some answers, ive been gone a while AND I WANNA DEBATE | |
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enviro Member of the Supreme Council
Posts : 2629 Join date : 2008-02-05 Age : 25 Location : bite the power
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:36 am | |
| you know there are like three wuestions right? | |
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oligarch Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1643 Join date : 2008-01-31
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:59 am | |
| "Green Capitalism" is just a series of gimmicks such as British Petrolium claiming that its not an oil company with no real impact on the environment as they make no changes to the mode of production. Capitalism will always see the world as nothing more than a collection of commodities and raw materials rather than something essential that must be preserved for the survival of humanity. | |
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enviro Member of the Supreme Council
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| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:23 am | |
| but you are basing this on only american and british gov,t germany for one is very envionmental, as is australia | |
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oligarch Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1643 Join date : 2008-01-31
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Wed Oct 08, 2008 2:37 am | |
| The actual mode of production which brought about the current environmental crisis has not been altered. Any environmentally friendly measures taken under capitalism will at most cushion the blow. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:31 am | |
| That's cause the people in Germany are superior, they don't have any carbon emissions.
Didn't any one listen to Hitler? (not saying I support him)
(and no he didn't say anything about carbon emission just that we--they are superior) | |
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enviro Member of the Supreme Council
Posts : 2629 Join date : 2008-02-05 Age : 25 Location : bite the power
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Wed Oct 08, 2008 4:36 am | |
| well what about australi and HELLO finlan, switz, and | |
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oligarch Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1643 Join date : 2008-01-31
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:26 am | |
| They're all taking green measures but it will never be enough so long as the actual mode of production remains the same. | |
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Alek4A Hero of Socialist Labor
Posts : 413 Join date : 2008-05-07 Age : 31 Location : America
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:51 pm | |
| enviromentalism isnt a system hahaha its just a policy if anything... it can be applied to whatever you want | |
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enviro Member of the Supreme Council
Posts : 2629 Join date : 2008-02-05 Age : 25 Location : bite the power
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:13 am | |
| you are wrong green is a political ssytem and a life style green has influenced so many political disicions its not even funny and many places have green parties | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:34 am | |
| - enviro wrote:
- you are wrong
green is a political ssytem How is it a political system? - enviro wrote:
and a life style Which you can't completely fulfill living normally within society, specially a capitalist one. - enviro wrote:
green has influenced so many political disicions its not even funny Which proves what? - enviro wrote:
and many places have green parties Which proves that parties can be created out of nowheere be nonsensical and contradictory even in an obvious way and still be granted respect and considered serious. | |
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oligarch Chairman of the WR Committee
Posts : 1643 Join date : 2008-01-31
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:29 am | |
| The only way Green can be a political system in a technocracy. | |
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Liche Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 4613 Join date : 2008-01-30 Age : 30 Location : USA-Virginia
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:40 am | |
| - oligarch wrote:
- The only way Green can be a political system in a technocracy.
Maybe enviro made his own political system | |
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enviro Member of the Supreme Council
Posts : 2629 Join date : 2008-02-05 Age : 25 Location : bite the power
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:32 am | |
| fine i guess green is a sub political category, laching on to others to change thier charecterisitcs anarcho-greens eco-socialism but still i wonder why it was chosen for wr | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:43 am | |
| given that consciousness of the ppl is high and income too cupeled with high oil prize is bound to lead to a green tech boom.
example: cars in 1970'S burnt 2 times moar fuel than modren cars. the us could save 15% energy by investing 30bn$ in more efficent technolagy, the us has spent somethnig like 1trillion on the banking system so far. | |
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enviro Member of the Supreme Council
Posts : 2629 Join date : 2008-02-05 Age : 25 Location : bite the power
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Wed Oct 15, 2008 4:29 am | |
| capitalsim can exist with green in greens most purest form (alek4 dont you be hatin in this thread) althoguh to accomplish true green, you need a form of gov,t that has not money driven economy | |
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mattabesta Chairman of the Supreme Council
Posts : 3936 Join date : 2007-12-23 Age : 29 Location : Iceland
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Wed Oct 15, 2008 5:42 pm | |
| - enviro wrote:
- capitalsim can exist with green in greens most purest form
(alek4 dont you be hatin in this thread) althoguh to accomplish true green, you need a form of gov,t that has not money driven economy no not really green IS economical in the long t3ewrm I mean you can meake a lot more money fro the earth if it exists for 1billion years more than you can if it exists for 1million. | |
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Zealot_Kommunizma Hero of the World Republic
Posts : 5413 Join date : 2007-12-06 Age : 35 Location : Mexico/Russia/Worl
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Wed Oct 15, 2008 6:53 pm | |
| - enviro wrote:
- fine i guess green is a sub political category, laching on to others to change thier charecterisitcs
anarcho-greens eco-socialism but still i wonder why it was chosen for wr Green was chosen by Kenzu in order to resemble existing parties in the world. | |
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enviro Member of the Supreme Council
Posts : 2629 Join date : 2008-02-05 Age : 25 Location : bite the power
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:26 am | |
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Alek4A Hero of Socialist Labor
Posts : 413 Join date : 2008-05-07 Age : 31 Location : America
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:29 am | |
| I don't have anything against you enviro, but it angers me that he wants to strip us of many active parties but the green party which posses 1 member gets to remain | |
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enviro Member of the Supreme Council
Posts : 2629 Join date : 2008-02-05 Age : 25 Location : bite the power
| Subject: Re: can green coexist with capitalism Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:32 am | |
| well if you want to take out the green party go ahead, im cool with it, ill just me a no party man | |
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