PermaBan calinis?

Kenzu wrote:

ONLY POSTS COUNT AS VOTES! POLL DOESN'T MATTER

what then why is there a poll?

calinis wrote:

If he's going to trash people on the basis of the collective, despite some of the good stuff they do, it means he opposes everything they stand for, thus he opposes their stance of jailing murderers, etc.

He generalized, that does not mean he opposes everything about them and he loves murderers. Generalization is a proposition asserting something to be true either of all members of a certain class or of an indefinite part of that class even if it is false, which in his case, it was. That does not mean he doesn't support everything they do, if you asked him, "If a officer helped a pregnant women and her husband drive to the hospital quicker by using his powers" i highly doubt he would be totally against that. Their are tons of other examples, he portrayed cops as in, like riot police, who are aggressive, but have to be because of the state of a riot.

On that note, he never stated hes pro/against jailing murderers, well hell, he never even mentioned murderers or jailing in his post, lol.

Your logic makes no sense. If your opposed to one thing, you automatically are opposed to the other? It is possible to oppose Police, and jailing, yes, but its also possible to intertwin. You can support police but be against jails, as you can be in opposition of police but supportive of jailing. Theirs no law that states "If you opposed to this, your opposed to the other!" Do you know his stance on both? I don't, and i read his post, so how would you if you read the exact same thing?

Police, are more of people that try to assist the community, they don't sentence others, as judges, they don't torture prisoners(Well...Besides some jail guards), they are there to protect the community as well as possible. They don't nessecarily have to do with murder, they just try to help prevent it, and possible stop it in any condition avaliable. Really, i don't see how your getting a connection that means "If you support Police, your against murder, but if you dont support police, your pro-murder!" If you can, please be a little more in-depth so i know your thought pattern on this issue, it's hard to debate when i can't really connect what your trying to state here.

And you didn't respond to my proposition on the poll options, do you think their not slanderous?

mattabesta wrote:

Kenzu wrote:

ONLY POSTS COUNT AS VOTES! POLL DOESN'T MATTER

what then why is there a poll?

Cmon Matt! Get with the times! Thats history talk, we've already discussed it.

Rename wrote:

Zeronos wrote:

Kenzu wrote:

ONLY POSTS COUNT AS VOTES! POLL DOESN'T MATTER

SO WHY INCLUDE THE POLL IN THE FIRST PLACE

1. For teh "lulz" as many say.
2. So it can be corrupted and persuade voters
3. Could of came before this new rule came up.

Why didn't they get rid of it? Couldn't tell you, but its not a big deal really.

*Cough* Page 7 of this topic *Cough*

I change my vote to Bann, because of that dumb thread about BC he started.

Finally coherence is hitting your heads people... I'm glad you're realizing about who calinis is in reality.

Thanks Rename and ZK. I don't even feel like i need to say anything further.

CoolKidX wrote:

I change my vote to Bann, because of that dumb thread about BC he started.

much love CK.

I'm (not) sorry to disagree Kenzu but the results clearly show that people don't support calinis staying. A lot of evidence has been presented against calinis and he reincided in what he was proposed to be banned for.

You should act like a human and not like a machine Kenzu and take into account how the whole thing took place.

Kenzu wrote:

Result as of 19th November 2008, when the poll closed:

MEMBERS WHO SUPPORT CALINIS ( 11 including him )
calinis
enviro
Liche
MightyObserver
Sara
comrade110397
Sill
Lilith
alexCCCP-RUS-54321
Kenzu
CoolKidX


MEMBERS AGAINST CALINIS ( 8 )
Tyrlop
Zealot_Kommunizma
RedSoviet
Speznas (shared IP with RedSoviet, was a member only for 7 days)
Zeronos
Diogritor
revolution
RedSoviet

IMPORTANT!
Everyone check if your vote has been counted in, and if it's the opinion you shared by the end of 19th November 2008 is the same as in this post. If something in this post is wrong, send a pm to me and to Zealot and we will check the thread for you.


It has been decided by a popular vote that Calinis shall not be permabanned. If he ever breaks a rule, he will automatically receive a 30 day ban.

THREAD CLOSED

You took into account RedSoviet two times, you didn't take Rename into account at all, you didn't take Black_Cross into account.

CoolKidX, enviro, Alex-CCCP-RUS-54321, Rename, MightyObserver and Liche consistently changed their minds against Calinis after it was evident enough to them who calinis really is which conveniently for calinis happened after you decided to officially but not defacto close the poll. I don't think that Calinis posting like his true self and your willingness to disregard anything after November 19th concurring in time are a just a coincidence.

He's effectively mocking at you and the whole forum. My duty is to ban him.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

I'm (not) sorry to disagree Kenzu but the results clearly show that people don't support calinis staying. A lot of evidence has been presented against calinis and he reincided in what he was proposed to be banned for.

You should act like a human and not like a machine Kenzu and take into account how the whole thing took place.

Kenzu wrote:

Result as of 19th November 2008, when the poll closed:

MEMBERS WHO SUPPORT CALINIS ( 11 including him )
calinis
enviro
Liche
MightyObserver
Sara
comrade110397
Sill
Lilith
alexCCCP-RUS-54321
Kenzu
CoolKidX


MEMBERS AGAINST CALINIS ( 8 )
Tyrlop
Zealot_Kommunizma
RedSoviet
Speznas (shared IP with RedSoviet, was a member only for 7 days)
Zeronos
Diogritor
revolution
RedSoviet

IMPORTANT!
Everyone check if your vote has been counted in, and if it's the opinion you shared by the end of 19th November 2008 is the same as in this post. If something in this post is wrong, send a pm to me and to Zealot and we will check the thread for you.


It has been decided by a popular vote that Calinis shall not be permabanned. If he ever breaks a rule, he will automatically receive a 30 day ban.

THREAD CLOSED

You took into account RedSoviet two times, you didn't take Rename into account at all, you didn't take Black_Cross into account.

CoolKidX, enviro, Alex-CCCP-RUS-54321, Rename, MightyObserver and Liche consistently changed their minds against Calinis after it was evident enough to them who calinis really is which conveniently for calinis happened after you decided to officially but not defacto close the poll. I don't think that Calinis posting like his true self and your willingness to disregard anything after November 19th concurring in time are a just a coincidence.

He's effectively mocking at you and the whole forum. My duty is to ban him.

People who haven't posted their stance by the end of 19th November have not been taken into account. Same applies to people who changed their stance after this date. 10 days to think about a decision is enough time.

Kenzu wrote:

People who haven't posted their stance by the end of 19th November have not been taken into account. Same applies to people who changed their stance after this date. 10 days to think about a decision is enough time.

Kenzu that reply makes me think that you need an update to your OS.

Are you following the whole series of events?