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Was Mao a Hero, or a Tyrant?
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Pannekoek wrote:
No he turned it into a deformed worker's state. Big difference and you know it.

do you know sarcasm?
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mattabesta wrote:
do you know sarcasm?

And do you know when to shut up? SRSLY...

As for Mao, I also admire his military smarts but his leadership was extremely bad.

At least some of the Army Generals and govt. officials had some guts to (secretly) disagree with his "policies".
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Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
do you know sarcasm?

And do you know when to shut up? SRSLY...

As for Mao, I also admire his military smarts but his leadership was extremely bad.

At least some of the Army Generals and govt. officials had some guts to (secretly) disagree with his "policies".

agree on your 2nd statement but millatary tactics?
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mattabesta wrote:
agree on your 2nd statement but millatary tactics?

Ya, even his opposition admitted to his military prowess.

here's a summary of some of his works.
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NoJustice.NoPeace wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
agree on your 2nd statement but millatary tactics?

Ya, even his opposition admitted to his military prowess.

here's a summary of some of his works.

sorry but that's from a fantic communist site I'll go ceck wiki rather.

wiki dosen't mention any outstanding tactical victoryes just gradual defeat of the enemy with help from the ussr.
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PostSubject: Re: Mao Tse Tung: Hero or Tyrant ?   Mao Tse Tung: Hero or Tyrant ? - Page 2 Icon_minitimeWed Apr 23, 2008 10:38 pm

Wiki is a unreliable source of information - period

No - not saying its bad, just unreliable
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mattabesta wrote:
NoJustice.NoPeace wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
agree on your 2nd statement but millatary tactics?

Ya, even his opposition admitted to his military prowess.

here's a summary of some of his works.

sorry but that's from a fantic communist site I'll go ceck wiki rather.

wiki dosen't mention any outstanding tactical victoryes just gradual defeat of the enemy with help from the ussr.
You are going to be full of crap if all your info comes from wiki
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mattabesta wrote:
NoJustice.NoPeace wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
agree on your 2nd statement but millatary tactics?

Ya, even his opposition admitted to his military prowess.

here's a summary of some of his works.

sorry but that's from a fantic communist site I'll go ceck wiki rather.

wiki dosen't mention any outstanding tactical victoryes just gradual defeat of the enemy with help from the ussr.

... It's a summary of materials that Mao wrote; Why would it be biased? They gain nothing by lying about what Mao wrote.

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You are going to be full of crap if all your info comes from wiki

Too late Mono, he's already full of crap.
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NoJustice.NoPeace wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
NoJustice.NoPeace wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
agree on your 2nd statement but millatary tactics?

Ya, even his opposition admitted to his military prowess.

here's a summary of some of his works.

sorry but that's from a fantic communist site I'll go ceck wiki rather.

wiki dosen't mention any outstanding tactical victoryes just gradual defeat of the enemy with help from the ussr.

... It's a summary of materials that Mao wrote; Why would it be biased? They gain nothing by lying about what Mao wrote.

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Man that was such a Deep and constructive comeback
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I knew you were being sarcastic I was being sarcastic when I said that. What now taste of your own medicine/
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I´m not sure. Some people say he have killed millions of people, but I think that the time while the culture revolution was escalated. bounce
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he dont "killed" them in a directly way, it was a starvation that killed the people and it was a mistake of mismanagement that where 3 years
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Yes, but while the culture revolution. Many people was killed by the own people. This story is a little bit complex.
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History is of course written by the victors and it was because the communists were defeated during the cultural revolution by the capitalist-roaders that it is now easy to slander Mao with ridiculously inflated numbers of people he is supposed to have killed. If he was a tyrant surely the people of China would have noticed and I think it is racist in the extreme to claim, as the western media often does, that the Chinese people are somehow incapable of seeing the truth as the west projects it.

The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution was an important contribution to the international communist movement, inaugurated as a means by which the masses may be mobilised to struggle against revisionism within the communist party. As Mao pointed out, capitalism emerges, in the post-revolutionary period, within the ranks of the communist party. This is largely due to the fact that all new societies are born bearing the birthmarks of the old.

If you want to see the practice of Maoism in the modern world, look to Nepal, Northern India, the Philippines, etc.
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If you want to see the practice of Maoism in the modern world, look to Nepal, Northern India, the Philippines, etc.

Why looking at them, what's Maoist about them?
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Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
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If you want to see the practice of Maoism in the modern world, look to Nepal, Northern India, the Philippines, etc.

Why looking at them, what's Maoist about them?

The Name?
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
Zealot = Owned
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Antifa wrote:
History is of course written by the victors and it was because the communists were defeated during the cultural revolution by the capitalist-roaders that it is now easy to slander Mao with ridiculously inflated numbers of people he is supposed to have killed. If he was a tyrant surely the people of China would have noticed and I think it is racist in the extreme to claim, as the western media often does, that the Chinese people are somehow incapable of seeing the truth as the west projects it.

The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution was an important contribution to the international communist movement, inaugurated as a means by which the masses may be mobilised to struggle against revisionism within the communist party. As Mao pointed out, capitalism emerges, in the post-revolutionary period, within the ranks of the communist party. This is largely due to the fact that all new societies are born bearing the birthmarks of the old.

If you want to see the practice of Maoism in the modern world, look to Nepal, Northern India, the Philippines, etc.

lol mao wasn't even a communist he just took the ticket too power and then he got kicked out after that he stole some nationalist divisions and became a gurilla in s-china killing pillaging and raping all in his and his men's way the only reson the commiterne let him back in was becuse he was the only millatary the communists had hell he even joined the nationlaist and suggested the communists should merge with them and in his years as province deputy or some shit like that his province grwe by the least ammunt of party members and most of his report's werenÆt even done by him even though party said he should.

bottom line mao was as greedy as any capitalist pig in america.
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Liche wrote:
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
Zealot = Owned

O_o

My question goes for Antifa, who probably knows the answer.
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Yea, I just wanted to do that, I see what your point is.

Thomas Payne was against the representative democracy and the two party system, saying that a two party system would be just as bad as monarchy.
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Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
Antifa wrote:


If you want to see the practice of Maoism in the modern world, look to Nepal, Northern India, the Philippines, etc.

Why looking at them, what's Maoist about them?

Fair question: I was talking about the rebel movements in those countries with the exception of Nepal, where the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) recently won the elections.
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Fair question: I was talking about the rebel movements in those countries with the exception of Nepal, where the Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist) recently won the elections.

Ok, it would be matter of watching their development.
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So, Zealot?
Do you think he is a hero or no?
I say he did a lot of good for China, but the way he did things wasn't necessarily good.
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