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Was Mao a Hero, or a Tyrant?
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PostSubject: Re: Mao Tse Tung: Hero or Tyrant ?   Mao Tse Tung: Hero or Tyrant ? - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri Aug 15, 2008 4:22 pm

what good?
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mattabesta wrote:
what good?

Get one of these (I got one last week). Understand some philosophy.

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where did you get that?
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A little bookstore in Florida.
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That's good to hear. I actually sell those red books here in Ireland along with all the other commie periodicals that I'm associated with. They are very popular.
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revolution wrote:
mattabesta wrote:
what good?

Get one of these (I got one last week). Understand some philosophy.

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lol that's mao's propaganda book it won't tell you ANYTHING about mao exept how gr8t he is.
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mattabesta wrote:



lol that's mao's propaganda book it won't tell you ANYTHING about mao exept how gr8t he is.

Yeah, becaue Mao never said something except "Look, I'm awesome".

It's a quotations' book in case you can't read the cover.
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Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
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lol that's mao's propaganda book it won't tell you ANYTHING about mao exept how gr8t he is.

Yeah, becaue Mao never said something except "Look, I'm awesome".

It's a quotations' book in case you can't read the cover.

I did but I mean look at THE cover.
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That cover design is only a few years old, the original red books had only a plain red cover.
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And even so, it's not bad to include an image of Mao, after all it's a work on him.

By the way, how can I get it Antifa?
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Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
And even so, it's not bad to include an image of Mao, after all it's a work on him.

By the way, how can I get it Antifa?

lol umm well it's a glorifide image of pig.
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he is a monster.
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Worst despot in mankind's history.
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I put undecided because I don't know enough about him.
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i put yes because he killed 50+ million people.
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i put yes because he killed 50+ million people.

There has never been any evidence to even suggest that. Essentially this is just 'think of a number' propaganda. As Mao himself said: "Without investigation, no right to speak".

Liche has taken a correct position in that he has not jumped to any conclusions based on the day-to-day manufacturing of public opinion that is carried out under western reactionary hegemony.

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Antifa wrote:
beatnikzach wrote:
i put yes because he killed 50+ million people.

There has never been any evidence to even suggest that. Essentially this is just 'think of a number' propaganda. As Mao himself said: "Without investigation, no right to speak".

Liche has taken a correct position in that he has not jumped to any conclusions based on the day-to-day manufacturing of public opinion that is carried out under western reactionary hegemony.

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Your right Mao didnt kill 50 million ppl.
There were taken by ghosts.
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I'm quite neutral to Mao since I don't know his theories very well and I don't count with enough information on his actions. What in my view is a fact is that, as it usually happens with leaders of his kind, he's accused of killing ridiculously high ammounts of people (usually surpassing "Hitler's toll") to make him look like a monster, among the top monsters in history. Most of which lack either logic substance, evidence or both.

I'm also neutral to Maoism because I don't know it deeply enough, but I agree totally with some of the few postulates I know of him, just as I do with some of Stalin's. Both characters and ideologies greatly attacked both by west and by revisionists with their own countries.
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I am also rather neutral to Mao too. Besides, the number of people he supposed "killed" is completely unrealistic and literally IMPOSSIBLE to achieve within his some 30 year rule.

Also, Stalin was accused of killing over 60 million of Russia's population BEFORE World War 2. I instantly KNEW that was freaking impossible since, one: Russia's population wasn't even that big, and two: The Red Army still had plenty of soldiers left to fight the Nazis to exhastion.

But also, seriously. Just HOW can a leader kill "insert double digit million plus number here" in such a short period of time? It first, defies ALL logic and reasoning, and second, is a tool to justify Western ignorance and hate.
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Mao was a revisionist, for supporting the alliance of the proletariat, peasantry, petty-bourgeoisie, and national bourgeoisie. Mao was an outright class collaborationist. Marx specifically said that the proletariat is the only revolutionary class.

I don't conceive a succesful revolution in which the peasantry and proletariat are not united. Specially in a framework like Mexico's.
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ha

If their is ever a successful revolution in mexico you would be the leader cause you have a beard.

like karl marx.....and every other (good) leader
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Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:
I'm quite neutral to Mao since I don't know his theories very well and I don't count with enough information on his actions. What in my view is a fact is that, as it usually happens with leaders of his kind, he's accused of killing ridiculously high ammounts of people (usually surpassing "Hitler's toll") to make him look like a monster, among the top monsters in history. Most of which lack either logic substance, evidence or both.

I'm also neutral to Maoism because I don't know it deeply enough, but I agree totally with some of the few postulates I know of him, just as I do with some of Stalin's. Both characters and ideologies greatly attacked both by west and by revisionists with their own countries.

yeash it like really matter wethere you kill 50 or 10 million..
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Three words: Little Red Book.
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revolution wrote:
Three words: Little Red Book.

two words: bullshit Propaganda.
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mattabesta wrote:
revolution wrote:
Three words: Little Red Book.

two words: bullshit Propaganda.

1 word: lol
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