Your political side

Are you socalist,capitalist,nationalsit or some other thing I'm a national-capitalist.

Communist objectivist fanat.

yea and no option?

BolshevikClock wrote:

yea and no option?

Excellent observation

comiescums wrote:

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"In your socialism there's capital" - capital is singular so you must say "there is".

Thanks, i keep that in mind.

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No, in socialism there's no capital. In socialism the whole system starts creating the infrastructure, legistative mechanism and overall logistic mechanism to establish communism. It's just a transitory stage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_economics

Your using wiki as your source, you have to be kidding me :/

mattabesta wrote:

an engeneer how builds a crappy bridge will have the sam standards of life as a engner how bulds a grate one dose that seem fair to you?

No engineer is allowed to build crappy bridges. An engineer that built a crappy bridge is simply either put to jail, forced labour. And maybe even executed if that crappy bridge costed peoples' lives.

Communist states settle standards for production. In this particular case there are prerequisites the bridge should meet: it should have a certain length, a certain resistance, etc. No engineer can downgrade this.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

an engeneer how builds a crappy bridge will have the sam standards of life as a engner how bulds a grate one dose that seem fair to you?

No engineer is allowed to build crappy bridges. An engineer that built a crappy bridge is simply either put to jail, forced labour. And maybe even executed if that crappy bridge costed peoples' lives.

Communist states settle standards for production. In this particular case there are prerequisites the bridge should meet: it should have a certain length, a certain resistance, etc. No engineer can downgrade this.

cant we all be a bit more mellow [=3

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

an engeneer how builds a crappy bridge will have the sam standards of life as a engner how bulds a grate one dose that seem fair to you?

No engineer is allowed to build crappy bridges. An engineer that built a crappy bridge is simply either put to jail, forced labour. And maybe even executed if that crappy bridge costed peoples' lives.

Communist states settle standards for production. In this particular case there are prerequisites the bridge should meet: it should have a certain length, a certain resistance, etc. No engineer can downgrade this.

what about the workers

mattabesta wrote:

what about the workers

In communism if a person has become a worker which provides merely his physical workforce, for example a mason or a machinery operator, is:

1) Because he's not able to perform intellectually more demaning tasks.
2) He's not interested in performing those more intellectualy demanding tasks.


In this case, according to their assigned post they are assigned quotas to accomplish. For example, a mason will be assigned a determined number of bricks to lay in a determinate time in a determinate form according to plans and engineer's/architects coordination.

ok so the worker can not get a promotion even though he's ten times better then his fellow workers?

mattabesta wrote:

ok so the worker can not get a promotion even though he's ten times better then his fellow workers?

no, he gets dignity and pride

I find the European description of parties confusing.
(mostly that Libaral thing. Here it just means that you are against the old puritan ways(America is one of the only western countries that nudity is worse then violence.) While in Europe it apparantly means something way different)

I think I have made myself clear that I support a Free Market Dictatorship(Or Fascism which is NOT just Nazism..that was based off religion.)

BolshevikClock wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

ok so the worker can not get a promotion even though he's ten times better then his fellow workers?

no, he gets dignity and pride

ok i see now why communism is only pobular with a small group of pepole.
even thoug i work harder produce more do better than my negbour my life will alwaies be the same qualaty.
good in a ressesion bad in a boom

Me I'm anarchist capatalism doesn't work niether Markism or leninism we need to socaily evole to a point in witch the state is no longer needed and all can live in a free land with out state intervention

Mr.fredy5 wrote:

Me I'm anarchist capatalism doesn't work niether Markism or leninism we need to socaily evole to a point in witch the state is no longer needed and all can live in a free land with out state intervention

so you'r in for tribalism, back 1500b.c? lions killing you?

Mr.fredy5 wrote:

Me I'm anarchist capatalism doesn't work niether Markism or leninism we need to socaily evole to a point in witch the state is no longer needed and all can live in a free land with out state intervention

that wouldnt work, there are way too many stupid people in this world without leadership they would be lost and confused.

I'm a communist for its purist form, everyone is equal, but that won't happen for the same reason as anarchy not working people are stuppid and people are greedy.

Comrade-kRad wrote:

Mr.fredy5 wrote:

Me I'm anarchist capatalism doesn't work niether Markism or leninism we need to socaily evole to a point in witch the state is no longer needed and all can live in a free land with out state intervention

that wouldnt work, there are way too many stupid people in this world without leadership they would be lost and confused.

I'm a communist for its purist form, everyone is equal, but that won't happen for the same reason as anarchy not working people are stuppid and people are greedy.

yeah the chanes of someone having 80iq are the same as having 120iq

Comrade-kRad wrote:

Mr.fredy5 wrote:

Me I'm anarchist capatalism doesn't work niether Markism or leninism we need to socaily evole to a point in witch the state is no longer needed and all can live in a free land with out state intervention

that wouldnt work, there are way too many stupid people in this world without leadership they would be lost and confused.

I'm a communist for its purist form, everyone is equal, but that won't happen for the same reason as anarchy not working people are stuppid and people are greedy.

Exacty there are to many people you are comunist witch means you want equality but by having a totalitarian state you are putting a few people over the rest hence you can not have equality when there is a government.

Mr.fredy5 wrote:

Comrade-kRad wrote:

Mr.fredy5 wrote:

Me I'm anarchist capatalism doesn't work niether Markism or leninism we need to socaily evole to a point in witch the state is no longer needed and all can live in a free land with out state intervention

that wouldnt work, there are way too many stupid people in this world without leadership they would be lost and confused.

I'm a communist for its purist form, everyone is equal, but that won't happen for the same reason as anarchy not working people are stuppid and people are greedy.

Exacty there are to many people you are comunist witch means you want equality but by having a totalitarian state you are putting a few people over the rest hence you can not have equality when there is a government.

one more reson why communism dose NOT work

mattabesta wrote:

Mr.fredy5 wrote:

Comrade-kRad wrote:

Mr.fredy5 wrote:

Me I'm anarchist capatalism doesn't work niether Markism or leninism we need to socaily evole to a point in witch the state is no longer needed and all can live in a free land with out state intervention

that wouldnt work, there are way too many stupid people in this world without leadership they would be lost and confused.

I'm a communist for its purist form, everyone is equal, but that won't happen for the same reason as anarchy not working people are stuppid and people are greedy.

Exacty there are to many people you are comunist witch means you want equality but by having a totalitarian state you are putting a few people over the rest hence you can not have equality when there is a government.

one more reson why communism dose NOT work

lol you say this and look at the party your in, and, there are many types of wasy you can run communism, totalitarian is one of them, but not the only one, to say thats a reason not to have communism is absurd.

The USSR didn't work, simply because the government didn't listen to the people. And when it did during Gorbachev's rule, it collapsed and turned into democracy that didn't want socialism back.

mattabesta wrote:

ok so the worker can not get a promotion even though he's ten times better then his fellow workers?

He will get rewarded by acknowledgement of his great effort and by the product of that great effort, else he'll be considered exemplar.

carmen510 wrote:

The USSR didn't work, simply because the government didn't listen to the people. And when it did during Gorbachev's rule, it collapsed and turned into democracy that didn't want socialism back.

No democracy there, nor anytwhere else.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

carmen510 wrote:

The USSR didn't work, simply because the government didn't listen to the people. And when it did during Gorbachev's rule, it collapsed and turned into democracy that didn't want socialism back.

No democracy there, nor anytwhere else.

democracy din't come to russi curruption came

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

ok so the worker can not get a promotion even though he's ten times better then his fellow workers?

He will get rewarded by acknowledgement of his great effort and by the product of that great effort, else he'll be considered exemplar.

but wher's my incuregement to be gr8?
and why did millions fee from the communist states?