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PostSubject: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:49 am

I have come to the conclusion that all political systems work to improve the lifes of the pepole exept monocracy(king) it's just diffrent ways of doing so and becuse we dissare no new systems esely come into light, rather the systems we have evolve.

my goal would be to give erybody the chanse to live a rich mans life,
the opritunity to do so is more valubel than living a medium life for the rest of your days, free healthcare, partyally state owned schools(run like companyes but owned by the gov), Internationalism and a well run econamy regulated and closely watched by the goverment.

this I think will prodce a very good state, or as I am an internationalist:
a good world to live in.

now I want your goal with what you belev in and in a very basic consept of how would be run(what to do with schools, healtcare ect.)
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:18 am

The final goal is no state and no classes and no money; a society based on free access to goods and common ownership of the means of production. Production is overseen through workers councils formed in the way described by Anton Pannekoek (recallable delegates selected by workers to represent them on larger levels). There is no alienation. Everyone has the opportunity to reach their full potential. It will be a society where the free development of each is the conditino for the free development of all.
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:36 am

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The final goal is no state and no classes and no money; a society based on free access to goods and common ownership of the means of production. Production is overseen through workers councils formed in the way described by Anton Pannekoek (recallable delegates selected by workers to represent them on larger levels). There is no alienation. Everyone has the opportunity to reach their full potential. It will be a society where the free development of each is the conditino for the free development of all.
so you can acive anything but you can't be richer than someone esle,
what's my motavation?
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:43 am

You can be richer than someone else.
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:43 am

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You can be richer than someone else.

then you don't have communism, or that's what zelot says.
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:46 am

Since when is zealot an expert on communism?
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:48 am

Pannekoek wrote:
Since when is zealot an expert on communism?
since he was one.
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:54 am

circular logic. In communism you can be as rich as you want.
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 2:58 am

Emy

what i have a problem doing is debating this point when the person on the other side isn't listening or open to the idea.

it is something that has to be self realized
which is why i don't debate ideals when the person is stuck on the other side of the fence.

I will debate it until i hit the same wall 3 times
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:04 am

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circular logic. In communism you can be as rich as you want.

oh then velcome communists I now suddenly like you.
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:07 am

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what i have a problem doing is debating this point when the person on the other side isn't listening or open to the idea.
He just said he likes communists. pwnd.
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:07 am

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what i have a problem doing is debating this point when the person on the other side isn't listening or open to the idea.
He just said he likes communists. pwnd.
give me the fiver!!!
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:11 am

If you knew more about communism I doubt you would like it since you are an idealist.
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:07 am

so my point is still relevant
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:11 am

My goal is to live my life without forcing anyone to do anything, without preventing anything unless it is in the name of competition, and to let the best man win without cheap tactics.
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:59 pm

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My goal is to live my life without forcing anyone to do anything, without preventing anything unless it is in the name of competition, and to let the best man win without cheap tactics.
wow a dream society, btw you should be anchrist.
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 3:28 pm

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so my point is still relevant
You think I get all these posts by not arguing with people who don't listen?

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wow a dream society, btw you should be anchrist.
But he supports capitalism. anarchism and capitalism don't mix because capitalism is inherently statist.
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 4:08 pm

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so my point is still relevant
You think I get all these posts by not arguing with people who don't listen?

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wow a dream society, btw you should be anchrist.
But he supports capitalism. anarchism and capitalism don't mix because capitalism is inherently statist.

yeah but his political vivew is closest to ancrasists.
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 6:10 pm

mattabesta wrote:
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so my point is still relevant
You think I get all these posts by not arguing with people who don't listen?

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wow a dream society, btw you should be anchrist.
But he supports capitalism. anarchism and capitalism don't mix because capitalism is inherently statist.

yeah but his political vivew is closest to ancrasists.
Its becuase liberatarians are just a little left of anarchist

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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:07 pm

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mattabesta wrote:
Pannekoek wrote:
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so my point is still relevant
You think I get all these posts by not arguing with people who don't listen?

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wow a dream society, btw you should be anchrist.
But he supports capitalism. anarchism and capitalism don't mix because capitalism is inherently statist.

yeah but his political vivew is closest to ancrasists.
Its becuase liberatarians are just a little left of anarchist

yes, or no?
wjat, ancrists don't belong to right nor left!
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:13 pm

anarchist are the extreme right where there is almost no government control

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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:25 pm

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anarchist are the extreme right where there is almost no government control
That means the extreme left. Extreme right are nazis, fascists and monarchists.
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sat Apr 19, 2008 9:27 pm

Riddler wrote:
mononokifool wrote:
anarchist are the extreme right where there is almost no government control
That means the extreme left. Extreme right are nazis, fascists and monarchists.

No I ment economicly, while communist want the government to provide for the people anarchist want the government to leave them alone.

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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:25 am

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while communist want the government to provide for the people
Communists want the people to be provided for, but not by the state (im referring to the higher stage here), and anarcho-communists want the same.
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PostSubject: Re: your goal.   Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:45 am

Pannekoek wrote:
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while communist want the government to provide for the people
Communists want the people to be provided for, but not by the state (im referring to the higher stage here), and anarcho-communists want the same.
LOL I like it when communists dissagree this proves that communists aren't unuted and that there is diffrenc betwen leninism and marxism and stuff like that.
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