What do women want - in a partner ?

What do women want - in a partner?

I will try to tell you from my point of view.
But at the very virst, I want to tell you something:
This question is a bit stupid. I couldn't love a behavior, a title or rank, I can only love persons. Never try to bend yourself for a woman, it WILL ruin you. Love doesn't mean distortion. Just be yourself, open your heart and eyes.

If someone believes in me like a religion, I call him stalker, if someone do everything I want, I call him mindless, he throw away his live. I would not want anyone to give their own life up. I think I earned a real person, not a puppet as a partner. Please, don't think I am cruel and coldhearted, but this is real.
I am a romantic and emotional person, I would die for my love. This is a fruit of love, not a root.
The basic of love isn't a big event, a big happening. Small things make it happen, make him or her Mr or Mrs Right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZMtPYOkrDc

If you cannot find a woman who loves you how you are, she doesn't earn to be with you!


What do women want, again?
Again, a song, but its german. I translate the most important parts.
Sometimes, woman like to be hit. ( this repeats sometimes )
Always, yes truely always, guys like you earnd a real bash!

Oh come shut the f**k of! Mens are Alpha, Women Beta? IN YOUR DREAMS PALE! You must have a lot exposure to the worst. Everyone who agrees with this shit line up and get your punishment. !-.-!

My very own opinion: Please stop thinking "men" like this "women" like that, this is no good. There is no basic difference, the eduction makes the biggest differences. Some women are creepy like hell, I wish not to meet them in dark. Oh and some men could get bashed by 6 year old girls.

Men should be strong, women beautiful. Oh come on guys ugly as hell aren't womanizer as well and I envy sporty women. Otherwise I won't love muscles, as I already said, I love a person. Guys do not get blind by beauty, it will fade.
But love will make loved ones most beautifull forever. I experienced that.

I agree with Rename and Zealot, every woman, every man, everybody is different.

Zealot, I am sad your experience has showed you much more whorelike women, but don't judge them to hard. The media forces them into that corner, and others need this kind of behavior to protect them.

A last phrase:
Womens play with the bad boys, but take the good ones home with them.

I hope / think you stare and flirt with the whorelikes, but take the extremely intelligent, loving, beautiful, healthy, extremely sexual (and must share my sexual ideosincracy), loyal, open-minded, objective, active, conscious, thoughtful, sensible, someone who loves her work because of the sake of it, humble, non-materialist, non-income oiented, honest, don't you, Zealot? ^^

Take an example at Zealot!

Sara wrote:

WoW....if someone can do everything I want and don't ask for anything.I will love him and devoted to him forever!!!

I will do everything you ask, but dont ask for things I dont want to do.

Or ro rephrase it. We should always concern about the other one.
Ask for anything we like from the other, but also do everything the other wishes.

I do everything for you, because I know you do everything for me!


@Marijah
Your post is very good! I enjoyed reading and I agree with it!

well if you love someone, and they love you back, then they should love you for you, not for being a pseudo bad boy, or a modern gentleman.
just for you.

Marijah wrote:

What do women want - in a partner?

I will try to tell you from my point of view.
But at the very virst, I want to tell you something:
This question is a bit stupid. I couldn't love a behavior, a title or rank, I can only love persons. Never try to bend yourself for a woman, it WILL ruin you. Love doesn't mean distortion. Just be yourself, open your heart and eyes.

Yet sometimes you can love those who change ensuing suffering in the future.

Marijah wrote:

If someone believes in me like a religion, I call him stalker, if someone do everything I want, I call him mindless, he throw away his live. I would not want anyone to give their own life up. I think I earned a real person, not a puppet as a partner. Please, don't think I am cruel and coldhearted, but this is real.

And what if a person's reality is to try and make you happy in all aspects possible? What if that person's pleasure is found within trying to do so?

Marijah wrote:

I am a romantic and emotional person, I would die for my love. This is a fruit of love, not a root.
The basic of love isn't a big event, a big happening. Small things make it happen, make him or her Mr or Mrs Right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZMtPYOkrDc

I didn't quite understand this part.

Marijah wrote:

If you cannot find a woman who loves you how you are, she doesn't earn to be with you!

*she doesn't deserve to be with you.

Which means if I can't find a woman who loves you as I am I should stay alone, right?

Marijah wrote:

What do women want, again?
Again, a song, but its german. I translate the most important parts.
Sometimes, woman like to be hit. ( this repeats sometimes )
Always, yes truely always, guys like you earnd a real bash!

Oh come shut the f**k of! Mens are Alpha, Women Beta? IN YOUR DREAMS PALE! You must have a lot exposure to the worst. Everyone who agrees with this shit line up and get your punishment. !-.-!

*men, in your dreams pal, deserve

So it is basically a song about a gender war... women trying to get rid off the stigma of being below men. At least in my whole life experience women have not been below men.

Marijah wrote:

My very own opinion: Please stop thinking "men" like this "women" like that, this is no good. There is no basic difference, the eduction makes the biggest differences. Some women are creepy like hell, I wish not to meet them in dark. Oh and some men could get bashed by 6 year old girls.

There is a concept on how men "should" be. Nowadays there are much less expectations on how women should be. The role of women have changed from the commited housewife to "the man" of the house.

Marijah wrote:

Men should be strong, women beautiful. Oh come on guys ugly as hell aren't womanizer as well and I envy sporty women. Otherwise I won't love muscles, as I already said, I love a person.

And the body is part of the person.

Marijah wrote:

Guys do not get blind by beauty, it will fade.

Everyone has a different way to cope with this.

Marijah wrote:

But love will make loved ones most beautifull forever. I experienced that.

And beauty is a requisite to love for some.

Marijah wrote:

Zealot, I am sad your experience has showed you much more whorelike women, but don't judge them to hard. The media forces them into that corner, and others need this kind of behavior to protect them.

I don't judge anyone hard. I'm a gynephile, that means, I loev women and have regarded them with more respect than men always. However, most of my female friends and my girlfriend are plain whores and they know they are and sometimes call themselves that way.

Marijah wrote:

A last phrase:
Womens play with the bad boys, but take the good ones home with them.

*women

That's exactly what my girl does. In that case women play with both kinds of men just the good ones care about the consequences.

Marijah wrote:

I hope / think you stare and flirt with the whorelikes, but take the extremely intelligent, loving, beautiful, healthy, extremely sexual (and must share my sexual ideosincracy), loyal, open-minded, objective, active, conscious, thoughtful, sensible, someone who loves her work because of the sake of it, humble, non-materialist, non-income oiented, honest, don't you, Zealot? ^^

I flirt with nobody. I don't like whorelike women except as friends and they're not awesome friends either. And I have never met a girl of the second kind, maybe once or twice but being considerably older than me and alreday with someone.

Marijah wrote:

Take an example at Zealot!

Well everyone wants different kinds of lives regarding to this. Many like just to have sex or to party around with girls; others want sex slaves; others want breeding machines; others want friends with whom they have intimate relationships; others want companions.

We're all different in this aspect.... since I'm 14 years old I've just wanted to find a woman with whom to be for life, I thought I had succeeded when I found my girlfriend when we were 15 and 3 years later I realized I failed failing constatly for two years until this date.

What do women want? As I said it varies and sometimes is hard to tell in individual cases.

nillerz wrote:

This is going to sound mean, but women in general want somene to tell them what to do. LOGIC TIME

Cavewoman. She's chillin'. One man mildly acknowldeges her presense, but doesn't go out of his way. Another man totally does whatever she says and fills her with compliments. She's attracted to the one who's disregarding her. Why? Higher real estate. Her thing is "Which of these men is the highest-class I can get?". This sounds foreign to men because we don't think like that. We think, "Which woman is the nicest and can cook me dinner and will stick to me through thick and thin?" not "Which woman is just barely in my reach?" EVIDENCE TIME

When in middle school, high school, and beyond, who gets wimminz? The mean looking assholes.

That isn't who women settle down with though

Kenzu wrote:

Sara wrote:

WoW....if someone can do everything I want and don't ask for anything.I will love him and devoted to him forever!!!

I will do everything you ask, but dont ask for things I dont want to do.

Or ro rephrase it. We should always concern about the other one.
Ask for anything we like from the other, but also do everything the other wishes.

I do everything for you, because I know you do everything for me!


@Marijah
Your post is very good! I enjoyed reading and I agree with it!

You can always *ask* but you have to respect boundaries. It's an evolutionary cycle. You never know if the other person would be willing unless you ask. Don't leave something off the table and not ask because you're afraid the other person will say "no." It doesn't hurt to ask, but it can hurt to expect the other to just give a "yes." Be reasonable. Talk it out, you'll save yourself worry and possibly walking on eggshells later.

Marijah wrote:

What do women want - in a partner?

I will try to tell you from my point of view.
But at the very virst, I want to tell you something:
This question is a bit stupid. I couldn't love a behavior, a title or rank, I can only love persons. Never try to bend yourself for a woman, it WILL ruin you. Love doesn't mean distortion. Just be yourself, open your heart and eyes.

If someone believes in me like a religion, I call him stalker, if someone do everything I want, I call him mindless, he throw away his live. I would not want anyone to give their own life up. I think I earned a real person, not a puppet as a partner. Please, don't think I am cruel and coldhearted, but this is real.
I am a romantic and emotional person, I would die for my love. This is a fruit of love, not a root.
The basic of love isn't a big event, a big happening. Small things make it happen, make him or her Mr or Mrs Right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZMtPYOkrDc

If you cannot find a woman who loves you how you are, she doesn't earn to be with you!


What do women want, again?
Again, a song, but its german. I translate the most important parts.
Sometimes, woman like to be hit. ( this repeats sometimes )
Always, yes truely always, guys like you earnd a real bash!

Oh come shut the f**k of! Mens are Alpha, Women Beta? IN YOUR DREAMS PALE! You must have a lot exposure to the worst. Everyone who agrees with this shit line up and get your punishment. !-.-!

My very own opinion: Please stop thinking "men" like this "women" like that, this is no good. There is no basic difference, the eduction makes the biggest differences. Some women are creepy like hell, I wish not to meet them in dark. Oh and some men could get bashed by 6 year old girls.

Men should be strong, women beautiful. Oh come on guys ugly as hell aren't womanizer as well and I envy sporty women. Otherwise I won't love muscles, as I already said, I love a person. Guys do not get blind by beauty, it will fade.
But love will make loved ones most beautifull forever. I experienced that.

I agree with Rename and Zealot, every woman, every man, everybody is different.

Zealot, I am sad your experience has showed you much more whorelike women, but don't judge them to hard. The media forces them into that corner, and others need this kind of behavior to protect them.

A last phrase:
Womens play with the bad boys, but take the good ones home with them.

I hope / think you stare and flirt with the whorelikes, but take the extremely intelligent, loving, beautiful, healthy, extremely sexual (and must share my sexual ideosincracy), loyal, open-minded, objective, active, conscious, thoughtful, sensible, someone who loves her work because of the sake of it, humble, non-materialist, non-income oiented, honest, don't you, Zealot? ^^

Take an example at Zealot!

Good post There's a lot more to it, but this covers the basics.

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

Marijah wrote:

What do women want - in a partner?

I will try to tell you from my point of view.
But at the very virst, I want to tell you something:
This question is a bit stupid. I couldn't love a behavior, a title or rank, I can only love persons. Never try to bend yourself for a woman, it WILL ruin you. Love doesn't mean distortion. Just be yourself, open your heart and eyes.

Yet sometimes you can love those who change ensuing suffering in the future.

Marijah wrote:

If someone believes in me like a religion, I call him stalker, if someone do everything I want, I call him mindless, he throw away his live. I would not want anyone to give their own life up. I think I earned a real person, not a puppet as a partner. Please, don't think I am cruel and coldhearted, but this is real.

And what if a person's reality is to try and make you happy in all aspects possible? What if that person's pleasure is found within trying to do so?

Marijah wrote:

I am a romantic and emotional person, I would die for my love. This is a fruit of love, not a root.
The basic of love isn't a big event, a big happening. Small things make it happen, make him or her Mr or Mrs Right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZMtPYOkrDc

I didn't quite understand this part.

Marijah wrote:

If you cannot find a woman who loves you how you are, she doesn't earn to be with you!

*she doesn't deserve to be with you.

Which means if I can't find a woman who loves you as I am I should stay alone, right?

Marijah wrote:

What do women want, again?
Again, a song, but its german. I translate the most important parts.
Sometimes, woman like to be hit. ( this repeats sometimes )
Always, yes truely always, guys like you earnd a real bash!

Oh come shut the f**k of! Mens are Alpha, Women Beta? IN YOUR DREAMS PALE! You must have a lot exposure to the worst. Everyone who agrees with this shit line up and get your punishment. !-.-!

*men, in your dreams pal, deserve

So it is basically a song about a gender war... women trying to get rid off the stigma of being below men. At least in my whole life experience women have not been below men.

Marijah wrote:

My very own opinion: Please stop thinking "men" like this "women" like that, this is no good. There is no basic difference, the eduction makes the biggest differences. Some women are creepy like hell, I wish not to meet them in dark. Oh and some men could get bashed by 6 year old girls.

There is a concept on how men "should" be. Nowadays there are much less expectations on how women should be. The role of women have changed from the commited housewife to "the man" of the house.

Marijah wrote:

Men should be strong, women beautiful. Oh come on guys ugly as hell aren't womanizer as well and I envy sporty women. Otherwise I won't love muscles, as I already said, I love a person.

And the body is part of the person.

Marijah wrote:

Guys do not get blind by beauty, it will fade.

Everyone has a different way to cope with this.

Marijah wrote:

But love will make loved ones most beautifull forever. I experienced that.

And beauty is a requisite to love for some.

Marijah wrote:

Zealot, I am sad your experience has showed you much more whorelike women, but don't judge them to hard. The media forces them into that corner, and others need this kind of behavior to protect them.

I don't judge anyone hard. I'm a gynephile, that means, I loev women and have regarded them with more respect than men always. However, most of my female friends and my girlfriend are plain whores and they know they are and sometimes call themselves that way.

Marijah wrote:

A last phrase:
Womens play with the bad boys, but take the good ones home with them.

*women

That's exactly what my girl does. In that case women play with both kinds of men just the good ones care about the consequences.

Marijah wrote:

I hope / think you stare and flirt with the whorelikes, but take the extremely intelligent, loving, beautiful, healthy, extremely sexual (and must share my sexual ideosincracy), loyal, open-minded, objective, active, conscious, thoughtful, sensible, someone who loves her work because of the sake of it, humble, non-materialist, non-income oiented, honest, don't you, Zealot? ^^

I flirt with nobody. I don't like whorelike women except as friends and they're not awesome friends either. And I have never met a girl of the second kind, maybe once or twice but being considerably older than me and alreday with someone.

Marijah wrote:

Take an example at Zealot!

Well everyone wants different kinds of lives regarding to this. Many like just to have sex or to party around with girls; others want sex slaves; others want breeding machines; others want friends with whom they have intimate relationships; others want companions.

We're all different in this aspect.... since I'm 14 years old I've just wanted to find a woman with whom to be for life, I thought I had succeeded when I found my girlfriend when we were 15 and 3 years later I realized I failed failing constatly for two years until this date.

What do women want? As I said it varies and sometimes is hard to tell in individual cases.

It does vary. However, flirting with people doesn't hurt anyone. They don't have to be whores to flirt back, just people with feelings. If you're thinking most women out there who flirt are whores, you really have a screwed up perception of women. Women flirt and like to be flirted with as it's a natural human behavior. It ups self-esteem and makes women feel sexy and most of the time, FUN. Amazing how that works yes? Flirt with your partner, your loved one. Compliment them! You'll be surprised with the wonders it brings.

kismet wrote:

It does vary. However, flirting with people doesn't hurt anyone. They don't have to be whores to flirt back, just people with feelings.If you're thinking most women out there who flirt are whores, you really have a screwed up perception of women.

I don't think I ever implied anything like that. I simply stated that I don't flirt and that I don't like whorelike women at all, covering two different points brought by Marijah. In this context I'm refering to randomly flirting with women I may consider attractive in a strictly physical way, women that I don't know at all. If I ever flirt it is with a close friend who I consider to meet my requirements for a couple given that I know her well enough. I merely wanted to say I'm not "up to adventures with strangers" anymore.

As for whorelike women, such women are for me women that are constantly seducing a wide array of males in order to merely suffice sexual and/or monetary needs and/or when these females already count with a partner with whom they didn't agree on being able to do this. Lots of my friends, and my former girlfriend are like that and I simply try to keep them as friends(in the case of my exgf, I completely cut all communication), or as some of those who are already my friends refer to me as "elder brother", then to keep something like a "brother-sister" relationship. But definitely not something else.


I actually define myself as a gynephile even inspite of not having the best experiences with women.. I used to worship women as if they were godesses and my former girlfriend made me drastically change that position.

kismet wrote:

Women flirt and like to be flirted with as it's a natural human behavior. It ups self-esteem and makes women feel sexy and most of the time, FUN.

I don't think any woman should require flirting to get any of said results. And in some contexts I find it to be prohibitive, like when a woman who has a couple that doesn't consent, flirts with others.

kismet wrote:

Amazing how that works yes? Flirt with your partner, your loved one. Compliment them! You'll be surprised with the wonders it brings.

I don't tend to associate flirting with an already stablished relationship. In that context I merely call such behaviour as "being loving, attentive and honest".

Else, when I compliment a woman, I do so out of honesty, that is, because I honestly find her or at least some of her characteristics attractive.

nillerz wrote:

When in middle school, high school, and beyond, who gets wimminz? The mean looking assholes.

HUTIN!!!!

lol I agree.

Liche wrote:

nillerz wrote:

When in middle school, high school, and beyond, who gets wimminz? The mean looking assholes.

HUTIN!!!!

lol I agree.

That's just a huge LOL worthy.

But to not make this look like spam, I also agree because its true!

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

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I don't tend to associate flirting with an already stablished relationship. In that context I merely call such behaviour as "being loving, attentive and honest".

Else, when I compliment a woman, I do so out of honesty, that is, because I honestly find her or at least some of her characteristics attractive.

Flirting is essential to an already established relationship. You consider it "being loving, attentive and honest" You can still flirt though. It's playful and fun. Without some fun (not sex!), life becomes boring.

kismet wrote:

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Ah how you love to dodge.

kismet wrote:

Flirting is essential to an already established relationship. You consider it "being loving, attentive and honest" You can still flirt though. It's playful and fun. Without some fun (not sex!), life becomes boring.

And within this context what would be the difference between flirting and what I consider it to be?

Zealot_Kommunizma wrote:

kismet wrote:

blah blah blah>

Ah how you love to dodge.

kismet wrote:

Flirting is essential to an already established relationship. You consider it "being loving, attentive and honest" You can still flirt though. It's playful and fun. Without some fun (not sex!), life becomes boring.

And within this context what would be the difference between flirting and what I consider it to be?

The <blah blah blah> is not dodging... It's called removing wasted space that's in a post above that I wasn't replying to. No reason to repost the exact same thing if I had no reason to reply to it.

I'd need more information on your idea of "being loving, attentive and honest" - examples please so I may further explain. You haven't given enough info for one to draw more than a cursory opinion and I certainly do not want to misread something you said or read more into it than is there. So please, explain more fully so I do not misrepresent you.

kismet wrote:

The <blah blah blah> is not dodging... It's called removing wasted space that's in a post above that I wasn't replying to. No reason to repost the exact same thing if I had no reason to reply to it.

Since I clarified my position as a reply to your assertion that I may have a screwed up concept of women, I expected a reply either in agreement or disagreement.

kismet wrote:

I'd need more information on your idea of "being loving, attentive and honest" - examples please so I may further explain. You haven't given enough info for one to draw more than a cursory opinion and I certainly do not want to misread something you said or read more into it than is there. So please, explain more fully so I do not misrepresent you.

Well, for me being "loving, attentive and honest" is to always compliment your partner, to demonstrate affection in accordance to what your parter likes, to attend his/her needs and to never lie or hide anything from your partner.

While this does not equal flirting, probably what you conceive as "flirting" falls within that.

No, that doesn't quite fall into what you've described, sorry.

Complimenting comes the closest, but flirting should be light hearted... if you're complimenting in a serious fashion "you look very nice tonight" "wow, your hair looks cute" "you're beautiful" "mmm, you smell good" those are compliments and mostly serious. flirting is light hearted and fun.



Also, you mentioned "whorelike women." Would that be the male version of a player?

kismet wrote:

Complimenting comes the closest, but flirting should be light hearted... if you're complimenting in a serious fashion "you look very nice tonight" "wow, your hair looks cute" "you're beautiful" "mmm, you smell good" those are compliments and mostly serious. flirting is light hearted and fun.

And how would a "light hearted and fun" manifestation of flirting be like?

kismet wrote:

Also, you mentioned "whorelike women." Would that be the male version of a player?

"female" you meant right?

I guess that would be the equivalent.

I think, if they is something you absolutely can't do, is be all hers and do everything while she does nothing, she will probably take humongous efforts for given, and she will think you can forgive everything she does, problem usually ensues.

Jesus wrote:

I think, if they is something you absolutely can't do, is be all hers and do everything while she does nothing, she will probably take humongous efforts for given, and she will think you can forgive everything she does, problem usually ensues.

Could you be more clear?

don't be silly, women want me

Liche, I want you.... not to tell that kind of stuff, you are still too young!

(lul cannot resist!)

this is all verry simple you guys drop 100 pounds first off (no mater what you look like you can find SOMEBODY but jesus man at what cost)

lose some weight switch to contacts use small words its ok to talk down on them but inlyif there stupid enough to see it as a compliment

be an ass to evreyone else but a sweetie pie to her
women lovee that

also leave highschool those women are NOT worht the time you put into them shoot for some one older 20-35 (yes if your 18-20)

not only are they less drama but they kow what there doing... you get mypoint


high school only lasts so long hel i couldnt get a date there ifi tried but now on the other hand, the tables have turned and i get some here and there, none i realy care about (yet but i still looking)

october 17 wrote:

you guys drop 100 pounds first off

Who are you talking to? Every male? I think I would die if I lost tat much weight. I forget how much I weigh but I don't really care.

october 17 wrote:

be an ass to evreyone else but a sweetie pie to her
women lovee that

Would you really want to date someone like that?

october 17 wrote:

use small words its ok to talk down on them but inlyif there stupid enough to see it as a compliment

You sound like you're a monster, and not the cookie kind.

Edit: That was an exaggeration but that's still really bad.

hahahaa i was a bit harsh (im a wee bit pissed at women at the moment )

but seriously women dont want a sweet sensitive guy if they do STAY AWAY caus they want to dominate you (my father forinstance his wife is more man than he is now)

when i say women want aguy whos an ass to evryone else but sweet to her what i mean is she wants a guy who is sweet to her but not sweet to evreyone else some one whos tough and dont take shit off of anyone

they feel more secure and for crists sake they should
this worls aint no fairy tale place myfriend you got to fight for whats yours evrey second of the day andf if you cant do that, maby you dont deserve that girl in the first place msn me for further discussion kingoflamegame@gmail.com

First of all, it's not matter of keeping low weight but a healthy fat to muscle ratio.

I hate when people say "Hey, lose some weight yo!" when actually it could we be that what they should lose is fat and probably gain as much or even more weight in muscle.

Second, fortunately not all girls want the same just as not all men want the same kind of woman. We humans are all individuals so each man needs a different kind of woman as much as each woman needs a different kind of man.

october 17 wrote:

hahahaa i was a bit harsh (im a wee bit pissed at women at the moment )

Read my previous posts. I bet you haven't got a girl drain 25% of your life while she was a prostitute on your back.

october 17 wrote:

but seriously women dont want a sweet sensitive guy if they do STAY AWAY caus they want to dominate you (my father forinstance his wife is more man than he is now)

Women are not like some sort of animal or species with a definite set of needs or likes. All of them are individuals and have different interests and needs. Therefore, the idea that girls in general want some kind of guy is absolutely false. And, since men are also all individuals, if all women wanted a specific kind of male, then all men would be entirely fucked up.

It's just matter of finding the girl you need and for whom you should be the kind of guy shee needs.

october 17 wrote:

when i say women want aguy whos an ass to evryone else but sweet to her what i mean is she wants a guy who is sweet to her but not sweet to evreyone else some one whos tough and dont take shit off of anyone

Unless you're bisexual, I pretty much doubt you would consider being sweet to the male individuals with whom you have interaction. As for being sweet to other girls than your girl, well that pretty much depends on your girl and the way you've established your relationship to be. Actually I've met some girls that think you should treat all women in a special, more gentlemanlike manner and feel offended like they had been the object of your offense, if you don't have such attitude with all women.

Who doesn't take shit off no one? Who on his sane mind does? Or do you mean girls like irrational guys who immediately (try to) beat the shit out of anyone that acted a bit foolishly?

october 17 wrote:

they feel more secure and for crists sake they should

So in essence girls are like some fragile property or should be like it? Or maybe like daughters? Or both?

october 17 wrote:

this worls aint no fairy tale place myfriend you got to fight for whats yours evrey second of the day andf if you cant do that, maby you dont deserve that girl in the first place msn me for further discussion kingoflamegame@gmail.com

We got down from trees and out of caves already quite long ago my friend, mammoths are extinct already and we cannot cross the Bering Strait by foot anymore. Welcome to the XXI century.

"Yours" concept of property applied to a couple? If a girl is with you it's because you're what she needs not because you're feeding her something or struggling with others, unless that's what she needs in which case I'm definitely not interested in such a kind of woman.

"Deserve" that is determined by the girl in question, not even by circumstances.


In my view it all boils down to having whom you need and needing who needs you. As simple as that regardless of whatever needs these might be.

Struggling, bargaining, sacrificing, conflicts, opposition of interests all those shits just drain energies, just hurt both or all parts involved, waste time and in the end end up in nothing good. And I know because this consumed nearly 25% of my life, that pretty much how my only relationship (from when I was 15 until I was 20) went. I won't have such a thing anymore.

You need to know yourself and what you need and search for it.
Then you need to know the rest and if you want a girl you better know her and she better knows herself to see if you both fit.

It's matter of mutual satisfaction of needs, even if those needs are precisely mutually inflicted suffering, sacrificing and those shits. It's not matter of just struggling to fit.

When you don't fit there's no point trying out and struggle. There's no point trying to practice relationship necromancy with something that was never really alive. You don't try puting a square inside a traingular hole.

Or you find someone who suffices all your needs and whose needs you can suffice or you be prepared for negotiations and consesions or just never have a comitment. And this is an irrefutable axiom.

no zelot she wasnt as prostitute it was free, my own stupid fault i should have seen it


and yes the loe weight argument ...and forthat matter my WHOLE argument was a bit tactless, but theres truth in it

october 17 wrote:

no zelot she wasnt as prostitute it was free, my own stupid fault i should have seen it

My prostitute I meant not only for money or material goods. Plus, 25% of your life?

october 17 wrote:

and yes the loe weight argument ...and forthat matter my WHOLE argument was a bit tactless, but theres truth in it

Where exactly can I find that truth?

If I lost 100 pounds I would be 0 pounds. And that is not physically possible. So dose that mean I will never have a girlfriend? :O