ahh, Stalin's 130th birthday

(Rolls eyes.)

Yes, and giving stories about how some German soldiers pushed a grenade into someone's mouth, THAT'S a tactic.

so i guess i should delete that post now? It's completely irrelevant. I mean logically speaking, an example of the Nazi's brutality CANNOT be mentioned when speaking about WWII and the Nazis.

When speaking about invasion tactics? No. Unless putting grenades into your upponent's mouth was a STANDARD at the time, in which case I'm not very impressed with the Russians. THIS is what tey were fighting? No wonder they won....

Well, this discussion has been about alot more than just tactics. And if you're seriously just gonna keep on debaing about wether it goes here or not, the fuck, I'm just not gonna reply.
It was WWII.
It was Nazis.
gj

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It was WWII.
It was Nazis.

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Well, this discussion has been about alot more than just tactics

You've been the only one who's brought in anything other than tactics, strategy, or logistics.

Alexdickhead wrote:

I didn't reply, besided in a being-an-arse way so I just keep saying that it isn't the discussion anymore, and now I don't reply cuz I don't know shit and got owned by Tyrong, sniff sniff".

Sorry Alex to put it that way and being an ass but that's just the shit you do, and its really annoying if you come to a forum for debate and discussions and then just say "I'm done" , because bassiacly your doing that now.
So if you wanna start new threads, fine, but just expect a discussion may come and then dont pussy out.

a discussion of what? I want to discuss stuff. I said one thing that was relevant to teh Nazis and WWII, and was criticized for saying it because it wasn't relavant, and its not liek i can start a new thread for it, either. Not much discussion would occur.

now stop starting arguemnts about ME, just stay to teh fcking nazis!

alexCCCP-RUS-54321 wrote:

a discussion of what? I want to discuss stuff. I said one thing that was relevant to teh Nazis and WWII, and was criticized for saying it because it wasn't relavant, and its not liek i can start a new thread for it, either. Not much discussion would occur.

now stop starting arguemnts about ME, just stay to teh fcking nazis!

Oh please, you say that you only want to discuss relevant shit to nazi's and whatever the fuck cuz my guess is that if it goes to something else you dont know what to say. I mean shit in most discussions on WR as I experienced every topic goes from something to something else, so it wouldnt be so hard to say that, I mean you stopped replying after tyrong made a reply to you and then, you did reply, but hardly understandable, you were just being an fucking asshole to him, just repy like a normal person and don't say "Oh that isnt relevant so Im not gonna answer", cuz then people think you just a ignorant fuck that doesnt know shit about it so just digs up a excuse.

I made the last response, then you said some shit and then you guys had nothing better to do than argue about me. I, however, actually had teh last response relevant to the discussion.

Yes, from something to something else- which is exactly what I'm saying. Tyrong told me what I said wasn't relevant.

I don't get anything you'rse saying. Tyrong said I said irrelevant stuff (liek what). I made the last response. And now stop talking to me.

Boo hoo.

Tyrong Kojy wrote:

Boo hoo.

yes, "winter" concentrated itself around the germans, like antibodies on germs, while the Russians experienced summer conditions.

And then eventually, winter raised a winter flag on the Reichstag.

Get over it: the soviets faced 9/10 of the German forces.

What you are doing is similar to a Russian undermining USA's effort in the Pacific; saying that the Japs were destroyed by the salt water and jungle environments that failed their weapons, or that they defeated themselves.

I haven't saoid that, I have been giving ways the germans could have won.

You said specifically, the war was lost before it started. Hitler's invasion of Stalingrad is what lost the war.

I'm also saying I doubt Germany would've won the war, either way. It's just the way the war happened - who deserves a lot of the credit.

why germany lost: germeny 80 mil
russia over 9000 or 180 mil
it's not tactics or srtegy it's math.
80g-160r=79g+0.1r

mattabesta wrote:

why germany lost: germeny 80 mil
russia over 9000 or 180 mil

the hell? well now that i see your thoughts, its to understand how you think only number make a difference.

alexCCCP-RUS-54321 wrote:

mattabesta wrote:

why germany lost: germeny 80 mil
russia over 9000 or 180 mil

the hell? well now that i see your thoughts, its to understand how you think only number make a difference.

they do germany and japan lost on teh basis of russian and american war production. name me three instance of conventional warfare were te side that won had less war production!!!

Russo-Finland war, the present war in Iraq (whos losing?) you know what, I would continue but I'm not going to because its like wasting my time.

I started by giving ways the germans could have won.

Could've Should of (not in an ethical stand point, but a comparison of military power) Would've

The reason they didn't win is because they were lead by a moron. Hitler could of gone into the middle east, but instead went to Russia. If he went to the middle east, he could of trained Palestinian and Ba'th soldiers to help him take on Russia, sure they wouldn't be as good as the SS, but would help none the less.

I have not argued THAT they lost, or even really the reasons. I gave ways of doing things differently at different points that would have ledrced Rus vidtory.A t the elast they may have forced Russia into a treaty.

Russia Finland war, which one Alex?
And the US kinda won I mean just becuz they have some rebel groups fighting doesnt mean they did not won, there were small rebel groups in France, Holland, Poland etc in WW2, tho their countries lost the war with Germany.

And lol Alex if your gonna make a post, make it full, and dont say shit like "wasting my time", otherwise this forum is wasting your time => leave.

Can you stop talking about me, I've realized that talking shit about each other is th shittiest shit ever. I'm telling you now, if you're gonna keep talking about me, I'm not going to bother to waste my time with that shit.
"The winter war", which resulted in a treaty.

Uhm Im talking not about you, just saying something to you, and if you cant answer then Il draw my conclusions of you, cuz Im probably right with that now.

And with a treaty no one won or lost, so that doesnt count as a country having won with less production of something etc. Guess you cant come up with a example.