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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Apr 03, 2008 6:43 pm

mattabesta wrote:
Diogritor wrote:
that would be 2nd world. 1st world is places like US and UK

morelike Denmark,Iceland,sweden,norway and finland sice all but denmark are top ten best places to live.
you have some kind of affinity for Scandinavia huh?
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Apr 03, 2008 7:29 pm

chinas avreag income is 900$.
the avrage income in cityes is about 10 times higer, HUGE GAP[/quote]


Yes but China is still a developing nation.
Its also worth remembering that China has a much higher growth rate per capita than many of the more - 'capitalist' developing nations.
A third of the economy is still state owned - this is a FAR larger percentage than most developing nations.
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Apr 03, 2008 7:48 pm

inkus2000 wrote:
chinas avreag income is 900$.
the avrage income in cityes is about 10 times higer, HUGE GAP


Yes but China is still a developing nation.
Its also worth remembering that China has a much higher growth rate per capita than many of the more - 'capitalist' developing nations.
A third of the economy is still state owned - this is a FAR larger percentage than most developing nations.[/quote]

umm the gov here owns 35%
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PostSubject: reply   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Apr 03, 2008 8:11 pm

Acctualy in Iceland only 23.5% of the economy is state owned - index of economic freedom 2008.

Besides, Iceland is NOT a developing nation.
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeThu Apr 03, 2008 8:29 pm

inkus2000 wrote:
Acctualy in Iceland only 23.5% of the economy is state owned - index of economic freedom 2008.

Besides, Iceland is NOT a developing nation.

dose that really matter ANYWAY it was 30% something just awhile back theywe been privatising liike crazy.
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Apr 07, 2008 12:06 am

No, China is not communist. No, China is not socialist. It is a country that employs capital and wage-slavery, like most others, generally along the lines of the US, Britain, etc. Their goal, as far as they say (i'll believe it when i see it) is to greatly industrialize for a translation into socialism. If this doesn't happen, then they will just crumble in a predominantly capitalistic world. I wish them the best of luck (and hey, the majority of the people still back their government).
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Apr 07, 2008 12:52 am

NoJustice.NoPeace wrote:
No, China is not communist. No, China is not socialist. It is a country that employs capital and wage-slavery, like most others, generally along the lines of the US, Britain, etc. Their goal, as far as they say (i'll believe it when i see it) is to greatly industrialize for a translation into socialism. If this doesn't happen, then they will just crumble in a predominantly capitalistic world. I wish them the best of luck (and hey, the majority of the people still back their government).

yeah but there are no elections in china, am I right?
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeMon Apr 07, 2008 1:17 am

Wrong! China DOES have elections and just like the Electoral College in the US, some office holders pick to "represent" the people.

Although...it would be rather interesting if the Mandate of Heaven was applied in America...

America would change governments every 10 seconds. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSun Apr 13, 2008 8:14 pm

Jeiro Sijakeuigwan wrote:
Wrong! China DOES have elections and just like the Electoral College in the US, some office holders pick to "represent" the people.

Although...it would be rather interesting if the Mandate of Heaven was applied in America...

America would change governments every 10 seconds. Razz

oh yeah so the reprisentitives vote a goverment.
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeSat Apr 26, 2008 11:14 am

And representatives are picked by the people Razz seams like a democratic circle to me.
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed May 14, 2008 2:44 am

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Threat to the white and Western world, so it must be destroyed.
lol, its a growing super power that no human can destroy
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed May 14, 2008 3:18 am

I cannot concider China a super power. It is getting there but it is equivelent to early 1900's late 1800's US. Wide money Gap, Gape in education between Urban and Rural area's,etc
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed May 14, 2008 3:20 am

ALl nations mustr be destroyed in the socialist revolutino. NOt by a war or killing people or anything, just by abolishing national boundaries. Nationalism does not mix with socialism. nationalism=racism as our newcomer surely knows.
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed May 14, 2008 3:51 am

AryanPower wrote:
Threat to the white and Western world, so it must be destroyed.

lol, KKK neo-Nazi. You make me LAUGH. And I'm Korean. lolololololol!!!

You do realize that China makes EVERYTHING right? Without China, the world is frakked.

Hmm~. Your comment seems highly xenophobic and warmongering. Calling China a threat to the world? Pfftt....

EPIC FAIL.
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed May 14, 2008 3:53 am

How do you guys laugh at him look at his avatar Im seriously scared get him banned now pleaseplese.
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeWed May 14, 2008 6:09 am

AryanPower wrote:
Threat to the white and Western world, so it must be destroyed.
Fuck you and your reich you pig
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri May 16, 2008 1:49 am

AryanPower wrote:
Threat to the white and Western world, so it must be destroyed.

Its a good thing they don't think like that - otherwise you'd be fucked.
China has the largest military on earth - and rest assured they spend more than the official stats on defence. rightly so - the world is dangerous place today with terrorist nations like the US invading who they like. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri May 16, 2008 3:22 am

The U.S would probably win in a war with CHina. China has numbers but we have better in everything else... We just cant occupy worth shit.. but we can invaide very well.
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri May 16, 2008 3:32 am

Diogritor wrote:
The U.S would probably win in a war with CHina. China has numbers but we have better in everything else... We just cant occupy worth shit.. but we can invaide very well.


The people of the US have become soft and grown fond of luxury, sedated by entertainment and incapable of sustaining any sizable casualties. The US will only invade when the percieved casualty risk is low.

In addition the technological superiority of the US is largely irelevent China is almost on par. Internal dissent and civil unrest are not problems China would have to deal with.

The US cannot occupy Iraq - never mind Iran

Lets not discuss China in the same sentence.
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri May 16, 2008 8:35 am

If worst turns to worst a nucular war with China would be won by the U.S. Their cities are closer together. Most of our nukes are on the west coast(in range of china) and most of our cities are on the east coast(out of range of ost nukes fired from China.)
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri May 16, 2008 2:58 pm

According to Lenin's theory of imperialism the USA will be on top forever.
According to Luxemburg's theory the USA will collapse, giving rise to a new superpower.
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PostSubject: Re: china   china - Page 3 Icon_minitimeFri May 16, 2008 11:25 pm

Diogritor wrote:
If worst turns to worst a nucular war with China would be won by the U.S. Their cities are closer together. Most of our nukes are on the west coast(in range of china) and most of our cities are on the east coast(out of range of ost nukes fired from China.)


LOL

In a nuclear war nobody wins - everyone is wiped out full stop.
Besides the Chinese are able to disable your satalites. They have developed laser technology and stealth capabilities as seen with the j-xx fighter jet.

And no, your not out of range - they can use aircraft and nuclear submarines as well as intercontinental missiles.

List of nuclear subs
Type 094 Jin-class SSBN (晉級)
Type 093 Shang-class SSN (商級)
Type 092 Xia-class SSBN (夏級)
Type 091 Han-class SSN (漢級)


By 2020, China will have over 60 modern submarines, and it will become the largest submarine fleet in the world.
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